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Thanks, Amith, for the apology. Yours, Thomas On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 10:28 AM, A.R. G <amithrgu...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Thomas, > > Sorry about the mistake I made. I did not mean to hurt your feelings. > > Best, > > - Amith > > On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 9:03 PM, Thomas Campbell via Marxism < > marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote: > >> ******************** POSTING RULES & NOTES ******************** >> #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. >> #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. >> #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. >> ***************************************************************** >> >> >> Back in the heady days of my adolescence, Ronald Reagan said the problem >> with the Russians was that they had no word for "freedom" in their >> language. I forget now which of his top-flight national security advisers >> or CIA/NSA whiz kids had advised him on this score, or whether the Gipper >> had just thought it sounded "right" for the occasion, but there is a word >> for "freedom" or "liberty" in Russian, and that word is "svoboda." It's >> the >> same word in Ukrainian. >> >> Hence, the word, since it existed in fact, was adopted, probably wrongly >> and maliciously, by the Russian-language station of the US-funded media >> outlet RE/RFL, Radio Svoboda. >> >> I found the interview with Vlad Kolesnikov, who I really do think should >> be >> an example to anti-war resisters everywhere, on the website of Radio >> Svoboda. >> >> http://www.svoboda.org/content/article/27064318.html >> >> Kolesnikov gave the interview to Dmitry Volchek, who far from being a >> Ukrainian fascist of any sort, is a long-time publisher of underground and >> marginal literature in Russian and Russian translation, including LGBT >> literature, through his literary almanac Mitin Zhurnal (which started out >> as a samizdat publication in Soviet times) and the affiliated Kolonna >> Publications imprint: >> >> http://kolonna.mitin.com/ >> >> http://rbth.co.uk/literature/2013/07/25/lgbt_literature_under_new_fire_survives_in_russia_28341.html >> >> I won't go into greater length about Mitya Volchek's great services to >> Russian literature and journalism, but if this were a slightly more just >> country (and not the fascist cesspool it's quickly becoming, with Marxmail >> subscribers like Amith and Roger Annis cheering it on from the sidelines), >> then Mitya would be awarded a knighthood or Medal of Freedom or whatever >> it's called here in Russia. >> >> Then I took the interview and translated it from Russian, a language I >> speak, read, and write fluently, into English. >> >> But then I made the big mistake of sharing my translation with this list, >> which has far too many self-made "experts" on Russian and Ukrainian >> affairs >> for its own good, including Amith and Roger. >> >> Where, Amith, was there any indication that either the interview itself, >> the brave anti-Putinist TEENAGER Vlad Kolesnikov (who has been speaking >> truth to power in the world's biggest country, which has so many nasty >> secret and other police that they're stumbling over each other looking for >> "dissidents" and "extremists" to crack down on) or the Petersburg-born >> Russian Jewish publisher and journalist Dmitry Volchek ( >> http://www.jewishgen.org/belarus/rje_v.htm) had anything to do with the >> fascist Ukrainian political party Svoboda? >> >> Just because you're apparently totally ignorant of all things Russian (and >> Ukrainian) doesn't mean you get to insult me and my work, and wonderful >> people like Vlad Kolesnikov and Mitya Volchek. >> >> For the record, in 2012, I published a report, on the blog I used to edit, >> on an attack by Ukrainian neo-Nazis on a presentation of the leftist >> journal Spilne ("Commons") in the city of Ternopil. At the time, it was >> alleged that the attack had been coordinated by a member of Svoboda. >> >> >> https://chtodelat.wordpress.com/2012/12/02/ukrainian-neo-nazis-attack-commons-ternopil/ >> >> Interestingly enough, Marxmail subscriber Sergii Kutnii reported on this >> same attack to the list at almost the same time: >> >> http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.politics.marxism.marxmail/164387 >> >> I don't remember if I shared my own translation of Spilne's report with >> the >> list as well, and I don't recall that Sergii's dispatch generated any >> discussion among list members at all, although as he knows better than me, >> Svoboda, their affiliates, and other Ukrainian far-righters and neo-Nazis >> were already causing a lot of trouble for Ukrainian leftists and others >> already "way" back then. It was just that back then this mattered to >> almost >> no one outside Ukraine, including, I suspect, Roger and Amith. >> >> But now everyone and their grandmother is an expert on "Ukrainian >> fascists," and Amith, a fluent Russian and Ukrainian speaker, just figured >> out that I have been aiding and abetting the Svoboda party of Ukraine, the >> cause of all evil in the known universe since February 2014. >> >> I want a full apology from Amith for this digusting insult to my >> reputation, competence, and leftist, anti-fascist political convictions. >> >> Failing that, I want Amith kicked off this list. >> >> If the moderators are unwilling to do that for any reason, then I'll kick >> myself off, because if this is what "Marxism" has come to in the 21st >> century, I don't want to have anything to do with it. >> _________________________________________________________ >> Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm >> Set your options at: >> http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/amithrgupta%40gmail.com >> > > _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
