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I will read with interest whatever you say about Venezuela, a quite different situation than Cuba's. But your support of Tsipras's capitulation in Greece does not augur well. With your reading of the relationship of forces -- more importantly, what can be done about it -- we may as well pack it in and be content with reading novels or watching films. -----Original Message----- From: Louis Proyect [mailto:l...@panix.com] Sent: Monday, December 21, 2015 12:02 PM To: Richard Fidler; Activists and scholars in Marxist tradition Subject: Re: [Marxism] Debt & Greece - Why Capitulate? Another Way Is Possible On 12/21/15 11:48 AM, Richard Fidler wrote: > In much more adverse conditions than Greece, Cuba's leadership was able to > resist US demands for payment of expropriated properties for more than 50 > years. Cuba would have likely collapsed in 1968 or so if the USSR had collapsed in 1965. When I refer to the relationship of forces, it is exactly that kind of element I am referring to. Venezuela did not have a favorable relationship of forces in the recent period. For all of the articles appearing now in places like the ISO press about how Maduro should have been for "socialism from below", the decision to have nationalized private property down to the last nail in the last bodega would have resulted in an economic blockade that brought the country to its knees a lot sooner. Right now I am working on an article about Greece, Venezuela and the left for the North Star that will go into more depth on all this. _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
