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@Dennis, Are you saying it's naive to think such changes will be made, or that it's naive to think such changes would matter? Frankly, I was not particularly hopeful about this election, and I know not to ask for the whole loaf when a few bread crumbs is all the system is designed to give. If I expected much more, I would not be on this kind of list. @Gary I think you are right that there are many things that ultimately affect policy, and yes, what is said during campaigning is obviously not guaranteed to make any sort of difference. But I do think that party platforms are more than just cheap talk. Granted, the President is not necessarily required to follow what the Party tells her; but the factors that *do* matter -- like what rank-and-file party members, local officials, and so on do and think -- probably are affected. For example, on Israel/Palestine, it is pretty clear where Hillary Clinton stands, namely on the graves of thousands of dead children in Gaza. As part of the Executive Branch, the President has "plenary authority" derived from separation of powers in the US Constitution that allows her to act independently of Congress, let alone her Party. However, the limits of what is acceptable are affected by what domestic constituents want. Given the effect that freezing out the Palestinians has been a major aspect of what the Democratic Party is doing on every level -- whether it is Governor Cuomo's bill in New York or all of the different state bills that are being pushed by Democrats to ensure bipartisan support for Israel -- a change in the platform might seriously undermine attempts by the DP to continue marching in lock step out of party loyalty. They might still do it out of other loyalties but the space it opens up is not insignificant. - Amith On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 7:29 PM, Dennis Brasky <dmozart1...@gmail.com> wrote: > "Affect the platform"??? Such political naivete on a Marxism list!! > > On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 10:00 PM, A.R. G via Marxism >> >> >> Ya but now A) we can still vote Green and B) he won enough delegates to at >> least affect the platform. >> >> _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com