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Well..thank you Fred for posting this. It lays out a vision, at least, to study and pick apart. I read what you posted and will read, what I assume, to be the full set of "Six Theses" from the link you provided. I hope there is a vision of what a 'sustainable' economy is. This is the weakest point of the so-called "anti-productivist" position at least from a Marxist perspective that focus, and indeed does focus, on "freeing the productive forces". I've never seen anyone ever square these two seemingly mutually exclusive concepts. Not Bellemy, not the eco-socialists. David _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com