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1) The YPG did not exist in 2011, although there was a small precursor organisation. The revolutionaries were busy organising the people of Rojava, in preparation for the insurrection that occurred in July 2012. After the insurrection, the most immediate threat to Rojava came from Turkish-backed groups, not the Assad regime. Fear of Turkey - justified given Turkey's extreme hostility to Kurdish self-determination - led to distrust of rebel groups supported by Turkey. Rojava tried to remain separate from both the Assad regime and the Turkish-backed rebels. 2) I am not familiar with the details of Ebu Omer Idlibi's history. But I assume that having been driven out of Idlib, and having joined the Syrian Democratic Forces, he would have participated in SDF campaigns against ISIS etc. The SDF policy is to not initiate military conflict with Assadist forces, but to fight back if attacked. Chris Slee ________________________________ From: Marxism <marxism-boun...@lists.csbs.utah.edu> on behalf of RKOB via Marxism <marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> Sent: Wednesday, 17 October 2018 9:13 PM To: Chris Slee Subject: Re: [Marxism] “Sochi didn’t succeed, it’s just that the weapons are hidden” (ANF) ******************** POSTING RULES & NOTES ******************** #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. ***************************************************************** This is indeed an interesting interview. It raises, among others, two questions. 1) The SDF commander Ebu Omer Idlibi says that the revolution started as as a progressive uprising for democracy but was hijacked by Turkey and jihadists in 2012. So why did the YPG not lift a finger to join the popular revolution in 2011? 2) The report also says that the commander (and his militia, I assume) fought against the regime until 2014. So does this mean that he/they stopped fighting the regime since then? The SDF commander also criticizes the Sochi Deal. But what is his alternative? Could it be an attack by the regime (with the SDF's help)? Am 17.10.2018 um 11:39 schrieb Chris Slee via Marxism: > ******************** POSTING RULES & NOTES ******************** > #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. > #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. > #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. > ***************************************************************** > > SDF commander Ebu Omer Idlibi argues that Turkey does not intend to withdraw > from Syria's Idlib province. He says: "They absolutely want to be permanent > in Idlib, Afrin and Shehba": > > https://anfenglishmobile.com/features/sochi-didn-t-succeed-it-s-just-that-the-weapons-are-hidden-30229 > > He also gives some historical background on the struggle in Idlib: > > “The Idlib territory was one of the first cities to rise up against the > dictatorial regime when the revolution started in 2011. The people of Idlib > have been suffering since the revolution first started. When they rose up for > revolution and serhildan, their goal was democracy and freedom. Unfortunately > the regime used intense violence, and the struggle was forced to evolve into > an armed struggle. That was received well by Turkey. They placed many > terrorist groups in Idlib and fed them. Turkey and Qatar have always offered > material support to these gang groups. The forces who truly wanted democracy > were removed from Idlib and disbanded. Idlib was turned into a gang central > at the hands of Turkey. The people of Idlib who rose up in 2011 for a > revolution demanding democracy and freedom have been victimized since 2012 to > date. Regime violence, gang violence and all the pressure has weakened the > people of Idlib.” > > ******** > > “We and some forces like us fighting under different names were removed from > Idlib in 2014 by terrorist forces. Jabhat Al Nusra attacked us as we were > fighting the regime and ISIS. They proceeded to disband our forces because we > fought ISIS and we were against putting the revolution on a jihadist path." > > _________________________________________________________ > Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm > Set your options at: > http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/aktiv%40rkob.net > -- Revolutionär-Kommunistische Organisation BEFREIUNG (Österreichische Sektion der RCIT, www.thecommunists.net<http://www.thecommunists.net>) www.rkob.net<http://www.rkob.net> ak...@rkob.net Tel./SMS/WhatsApp/Telegram: +43-650-4068314 --- Diese E-Mail wurde von Avast Antivirus-Software auf Viren geprüft. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/chris_w_slee%40hotmail.com _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
