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Louis Proyect quotes an address from Marx in which Marx advocates the working class running its own candidates, even if that candidate stands no chance of winning. In the first place, that was in a completely different situation. Second, and more important: Marx was talking about candidates coming from a working class movement, and that is exactly the difference. The Greens are not a working class party; they are a petit bourgeois party. They did not develop out of a movement of the working class and have no base in any part of the working class movement. In 2016 I voted for the Green Party candidate for president. That was a mistake. First of all because at that time I did not see the importance of their VP candidate's support for Assad. And as for Stein - I didn't see the significance of her flirtation (to say the least) with Putin. More to the point, I had thought that a layer of the Sandersnista youth might turn to the Green Party and transform it, give it some real life. From there, given the huge political vacuum in the working class, I thought the GP might actually become a working class party. This is as opposed to in Germany, for example, where they seem to have become a capitalist party on the "left" margins of the spectrum. I went to a few GP meetings here in Oakland. There was no sign of those youth here. I don't think the Greens will be transformed; I think they will remain a petit bourgeois party, and I would not vote for their candidates again. This is not meant to advocate voting for the Democrat; it's just meant to say that I think the Greens don't deserve the support of socialists. John Reimann -- *“In politics, abstract terms conceal treachery.” *from "The Black Jacobins" by C. L. R. James Check out:https:http://oaklandsocialist.com also on Facebook _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: https://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
