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On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Lüko Willms <lueko.wil...@t-online.de> wrote:

>> I have long believed that Stalinism (particularly in its
>> post-Khruschevian form) was some particular version of
>> Social-Democracy, a Social-Democracy without a bourgeoisie to do the
>> dirty task.
>
>  They are both a petty-bourgeois current exploiting the working-class
> movement, but the social basis is different.
>
>  The social basis of social-democracy is intimately tied in with "their own"
> bourgeoisie in that respective country, finding its primary social support in
> the trade-union burocracy and the municipal burocracy (this latter is the
> case at least in Germany).
>
>   The other current, which we know as stalinism, is -- as you say -- not so
> intimately linked with its "national" bourgeoisie, and can act more
> independently of that.
>
>   Consider the "left" turn in the late 1940ies of stalinist parties worldwide
> after the Kreml finally realised that the US empire was not "good friend". It 
> is
> in that period, that stalinists in Colombia started an armed struggle, that 
> the
> revolutionists in China and Vietnam were encouraged to go on the offensive,
> and that time, when in Eastern Europe the burocratically deformed revolutions
> ended the direct capitalist rule in a number of countries.
>
>> But this is quite original, for me! Why would you say that Stalinism
>> roots in Bakunin?
>
>   It is this program of a "barracks communism" (Kasernenhofkommunismus),
> as Marx called it in its critique of the Bakuninist split of the first 
> International,
> the gangsterism of a petty bourgeois layer detached from a real unity with
> the working classes, the strong-arm tactics against political opponents and
> the mistrust against the working class as such which has to be commanded
> but not led, all this is first found in Bakunin and his followers, and could
> develop to a larger extent only after the foundations of a workers state
> brought about by the Russian Revolution provided such a layer a power base,
> on which same-minded groups in other countries could rely on.
>
>   The horror of the Pol-Pot-Regime is another manifestation of that.
>
>   Also think of the burning tires as "neck laces" to "discipline" Black 
> workers
> by a stalinist wing of the ANC.
>
>   This insight came me after reading Martín Koppel's pamphlet "Peru's
> Shining Path - Anatomy of a reactionary sect", published in 1993 by
> Pathfinder Press (Spanish as "Sendero Luminoso - Evolución de una secta
> estalinista" in 1994 <http://www.pathfinderpress.com/s.nl/it.A/id.599/.f>).
>
>   This Bakuninism is quite different from what we know as Anarchism today,
> in which individualism plays a central role, and where groups end up by all of
> them hanging out shingle or starting a business on their own.
>
>
> Saludos revolucionarios desde el viejo continente,
> Lüko Willms
> Frankfurt, Germany


This has to be one of the most asinine things I have read on marxmail.

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