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Les Schaffer: i don't have time right now to get into it, but are the rest of you here ok with this idiocy? or the Counterpunch article posted yesterday that spoke of "castrating feminists" when discussing the women accusers of Assange??? No. But then I'm not comfortable with _any_ part of this discussion. We don't need any of these facts. We need more hardheaded exploration of how we can make political use of the overload of information we already have. If facts were useful in overthrowing the wages system (and it is that, not a particular capitalist class that is the oppressor) capitalism would have disappeared long ago. This list makes a fetish of empty information. But the discussion of the woman in almost all quarters has indeed been pretty revolting. Carrol ________________________________________________ Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com