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Carrol, the ruling class of the US and its flunkies overseas are engaged in some of the most egregious violation of first amendment rights since Watergate. Which is a serious mistake on their part. Probably one of the few things (perhaps the only thing) which can generate mass resistance (the kind of mass resistance from which either real reforms or revolutionary conditions develop) is represdsion. (The fixation on exploitation of so many on this list flies in the face of 600 years of passive acceptance of exploitation). And the discussion should be wholly on ways of generating resistance to that growing represdsi9on. And the "facts" necessary for that have, in fact, been available for a century or so. They certainly do not include this offensive concern with the private morals of some woman in Sweden. That shows indifference to struggle and fascination with mere gossip. Carrol Note: When an actual mass movement arises again (and it will, though there is no knowing when or how it will be triggered), THEN maximalist tactics will be sterile; discussion, during such an interim as the present, which is NOT maximalist is sterile. ________________________________________________ Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com