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Heaven forbid we should merge politics and logic, that would be so unlike Marx-- I'm not making any judgement based on the morality of any particular capitalist's actions, which is why I don't find any difference between a Madoff or a Buffett-- other than the circumstantial difference of how each functions as a necessary part of the whole of capitalist accumulation. Bush was stupid, and he was intelligent enough not give a rat's ass what anyone thought of his intelligence. Bush was principled, and he was a belligerent and bold liar, and a facilitator of fraud, theft. Obama's no different. His loyalty to his class does not mean he isn't a spineless liar. Marx certainly never shrank from calling out any particular representative of the bourgeoisie for being stupid, devious, ignorant, vicious, and thus being a perfect representative for that class. Next, you'll be telling me that Milton Friedman really was an advocate of freedom; that he was consistent in his arguments; that he was a principled man. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carrol Cox" <cb...@ilstu.edu> ________________________________________________ Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com