> > > 6. http://www.rednews.ru/text/2000/22_08/22_08_0.htm
> > > The Bell in the deep ocean (the truth and the lies about the tragedy of
> > > Kursk) (Sovietskaya Rossiya)
> > (shorter version)
> > ... All the versions of the disaster's roots can be divided into 3 groups:
> >  a) The damage was done by a collision with an outside object;
> > b) the damage is caused by the explosion of torpedoes on board;
> > c) the disaster is a result of the mistakes of the crew.
> >  The first version was developed by the Govermenent's Special Commission
> > for investigation of the reasons of the crash, under the leading of Vice
> > Prime Minister Ilya Klebanov. According to the Commission, "the reasons of
> > the disaster are the dynamical hits from the outside of the vessel".
> > Russian press has even named the submarines of the certain countries that
> > most probably were involved. Newspaper Moskovsky Komsomoletz even suggests
> > that it was a planned attack by a NATO submarine on Kursk. The leadership
> of
> > the Russian Navy has therefore asked not to publish the details of the
> > nationality of the submarine involved until the investigation will be
> > completed.
> >
> > The second version is purely the version  on which the Western sources
> > insist, including British, American and Norwegian. Their "source" is the
> > seysmoresults received by their own troops in the area - which only
> > underlines the very fact that the NATO was following Russian internal Navy
> > exercises very closely.
> > They write that in the area of the disaster there were 2 explosions: on
> > 12/08
> > at 11:30 a.m, with the power of 1,5 ball, . and then - 2 minutes later, a
> > much stronger one, on 3,5 bal. (that equals the explosion of 2 tons of
> > dynamite under water).
> > The leadership of the Russian NAVY has excluded the torpedo version -
> > because there were NO REAL TORPEDOES ON BOARD - and also has declined the
> > version about "mistakes" of the crew.
> >
> > What do the facts say?
> >
> > There are some facts that are obvious. The most detailed and logically
> > reasonable list of facts was given on Russian TV on the 19th of August by
> > vice
> > admiral Mikhail Motsak.According to him, the front part of Kursk was
> > destroyed and flooded almost immediately, and from the back part the sighs
> > of life were coming as according the rules of behavior on submarines
> > prescribe to do. There are reasons to believe that water started coming
> > there very quickly too, together with the diminishing of the air and the
> > rising of the air pressure in the cabins. > It was impossible for the
> > earlier rescue attempts to enter the submarine because of the deformation
> of
> > its body.
> >
> > Why did the foreign help come so late?
> >
> >
> > Russia's mass media that belong to the "tycoons" have blamed Putin for not
> > asking the foreign help earlier tan 4 days after the crash. Western media
> > write that the Russian president has "Soviet"mentality of secrecy that
> > prioritized for him the state secrets above the lives of the sailors. By
> > the way, there was never such mentality on the Soviet Union - the State
> > always did its very best to save its citizens, doesn't matter at what
> cost,
> > just as it was in the 30s during the Arctic expedition of Chelyuskin.
> > Yes, the president has delayed asking for help, but even if he would ask
> for
> > it immediately, would it change anything? It is very doubtful that the
> > British or the Norwegian rescuers could have done any more than what their
> > Russian colleagues did - under that weather conditions. And remember that
> > the
> > British LR 5 was only tested during the exercises and was never used to
> save
> > anybody in real life. The Norwegian deep water divers have the experience
> > only of working on construction and repairs of the oil platforms in the
> > Northern Sea, even though they have taken part in exercises on how to
> rescue
> > to submarinists.
> > Speaking about "Russian secrecy" is also foolish: NATO knows enough about
> > our nuclear submarines and even has its on standards for them.
> >
> > >  Vassily Safronchuk.
> >
> > > 7. http://www.rednews.ru/text/2000/22_08/22_08_1.htm
> > > Who is guilty and what to do? (Sovietskaya Rossiya) (short version)
> > >
> > > In the light of the Kursk tragedy Western massmedia are trying to answer
> > these really Russian questions.
> > Speaking about the real reason of the crash, mass media is working on 2
> > versions: collision with a foreign submarine and self-started explosion on
> > board of the Kursk itself.
> > It is obvious that the Western officials insists on their total innocence
> in
> > this incident, and in the Western press they are working actively on the
> > version about "new type of torpedoes" or "fuel" on board of the submarine.
> >
> > It is very typical that the question about possible hand of the West in
> this
> > tragedy is being largely avoided by the Russian NTV television station of
> > Gusinsky that exists largely on Western money. ..
> >
> >  But at the same time, some Western media are writing remarkable things.
> > on 20/08 Daily Telegraph has written about the joke of the submarinists
> > "under the Arctic ice Cold War never melts". And the smallest mistake in
> > those water there the rival submarines meet, can cost lives.
> > According to the writer, "the British submarinists do not wish to give the
> > press the details of its contacts with the Russian fleet. All movements of
> > the Royal submarines are remaining secret information even now, more than
> 10
> > years since the end of the Cold War..."
> >
> > One of the reasons of such secrecy is that the West, just as it was during
> > the Cold War, is continuing to monitor closely the Russian Navy. The
> article
> > claims that when last week Kursk was taking part in the biggest Russian
> > exercises on sea in recent years, Russian sailors knew - "NATO is
> following
> > all their movements and each of those movements was met with fear". One of
> > the retired British submarinists Charles Robinson has told the
> > correspondent:
> > "The problem is that the condition s (of the following of the Russian
> > submarines for the NATO) are very limited. The main danger is the
> collision.
> > Several submarines are moving around each other in a very limited space.
> > That's how collisions happen."
> > The goal is not only search for information but also to see the
> > possibilities of the opponent to respond.
> > The article claims that many years after the end of the Cold War  British
> > submarines are still staying in the region to the North of Norway "because
> > of the suspicion between NATO and Russia, no longer enemies, but far from
> > the allies also.
> >
> > In other words, Daily Telegraph is openly admitting the possibility of
> > collision of Kursk with a British submarine.
> >
> > On the 20/08 about the same The Washington Post is writing. It underlines
> > that the Pentagon until now hasn't given free the photos of its submarines
> > that were in the area at the time of the crash, that could prove that they
> > are  not damaged and is even declining to say where they are at present.>
> >
> >
> > Leonid Nikolayev.
> >
> >
> >


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