To Marv, but actually to Sartesian ultimately:
I think it is a task that is definitely worth doing to respond to such a 
meaningful and actually I think a very constructive question. But I think it 
does take a fair bit of a careful historical survey - to address properly. For 
my part I shall try to make a bit of time. I mean that sincerely and others 
here in any case will take up the challenge.

But I also have a serious rejoinder that Sartesian should consider also (at 
least in my view). That is whatever the historical survey - what alternative do 
you Sartesian propose?

What is the inductive current that turns a large mass of largely politically 
un-involved people into a revolutionary flood? It is not the agent of 
propaganda - both Lenin tells us that, and even more importantly perhaps our 
own experiences should convince us of that.

I know that Lenin rightly also tells us that the class learns at certain 
revolutionary times in history more than a century of other times (forget exact 
quite - but that is its gist). Is it a reliance on this that underlies your 
eschewing of any actions other than a sudden transforming lightning bolt of 
revolutionary intent? No prior structures, vehicles, forms to prepare? I am not 
goading, I just don't get the structure.

H


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