> On Jan 22, 2025, at 8:12 AM, sartesian via groups.io 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Just another example of what happens when ideology is more important than 
> reality.  

That's not my takeaway. RKOB is obviously much closer to the struggle than I 
am. Particularly Yossi. I greatly respect that. But in my humble opinion, what 
they have been writing about Gaza is not consistent with the Marxist tradition. 
It is consistent with a tendency in Marxist-oriented activist groups, however, 
so I welcome their posting on the marxmail list and think we need debate rather 
than disparagement.

What is missing in Gaza, I think, is the development of the masses towards 
class consciousness, and this requires democratically-functioning 
organizations, among other things. The Gazan's struggle has been completely 
decided by a small clique that has dictatorial control of the government and 
who command of a formidable military organization, relative to the Palestinian 
population but not relative to Israel. To the extent that the masses are 
organized in Gaza, it seems to me, it's as part of the Hamas state structure or 
in a military chain of command, which operated independently in 10/7 of the 
reactionary Gulf states that fund Hamas, and to disastrous results when they 
miscalculated the support they could expect from their allies region. 

That's my take, for what it's worth.  I'm no expert here but merely paraphrase 
the experts whom I select to study and am persuaded to believe. Hopefully my 
ideology is not trumping reality.

Mark




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