Dr Zimmerman, did you mean 'active' or 'reactive' in the first sentence? and in 
the second sentence did you mean active as you wrote?

From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Nodal same-sign flows
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2013 10:32:38 -0400
To: [email protected]

It is possible for the active power injections into both ends of a branch to be 
positive, meaning there are active power losses in the line even though the 
active “flow” is nearly zero. Presumably this is due to the currents involved 
in the reactive power injections. I do not think it is possible for the active 
power injections into both ends of a line to be negative, unless it has a 
negative resistance. And I can’t think of a physical meaning for negative 
series resistance in a branch.

-- Ray ZimmermanSenior Research AssociateB30 Warren Hall, Cornell University, 
Ithaca, NY 14853phone: (607) 255-9645



On Oct 30, 2013, at 5:34 PM, spyros gian <[email protected]> wrote:Dr 
Zimmerman,I would like to share with you an interesting observation. Suppose a 
line connecting bus 1 and bus 2. The power comes out of bus1, and goes into bus 
2. So, 10MW come out of bus1, and 8MW go into bus2.The 2 MW is losses.This 
sounds logical.
However, there are cases in multibus systems, where across a line K-L, the flow 
coming out of busK is 10MWand the flow coming into busL is - 8MW. So in this 
case busK sends 10MW and busL sends 8MW.Is there a meaning in this?
Also, there are cases where both powers are negative. 
I haven't got the files to send them to you, but in my experience I have seen 
such cases occur with MatPower, thoughI do not remember the versions.
So the question is generalized into : Can there be cases where the power that 
comes out of one bus and goes into another bus of the same line, are of the 
same sign?Is there any physical meaning into this ? 
Thank youSyros Gian
                                          

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