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"Out beyond ideas of wrongdoing and rightdoing there is a field. I'll meet you 
there.'"
~ Rumi

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  The Mind
   
  There isn't really a way of talking objectively about the mind because first, 
the words come through the mind, second they are heard through the mind, and 
third, there is not such thing as objectivity!

It is like trying to tell an official about a conspiracy — without knowing that 
the official is head of the conspiracy.

In India they have called what we call reality, Maya — illusion, unreal. 

Everything we think about, or try not to think about, is based on the 
information that has been picked up by what the mind thinks it has heard.

Of course there are many studies that show each person has a different 
interpretation of a similar event, but, of course, so do the researchers.


   
   
  
  The human mind is programed to cling tenaciously to dreams, words and 
concepts.
  
So every concept, every belief, every idea — is just that, an idea. And then we 
have an idea of what is an idea, or what it is like not to have an idea.

We think, we presume, that there are certain certainties. And there are not 
any. None. Can you get that? — we cannot be certain of anything at all. 
Nothing. All is an illusion!

We presume that if we banged our head then that is a reality. There is a head, 
there was something we banged into, and we know what our physical experience 
is. But we don't. The whole experience may be just something that does not have 
a valid explanation.

All these texts, sermons, teachings, including what you are reading now, is not 
the truth. The few people that have awoken to another level have tried to share 
with us their experience of their non-experience, but we can only experience 
the non-experience through experience. Which is not non-experience.

As Lao Tzu is quoted as saying, "The truth cannot be said. If it is said it is 
not the truth." Perhaps, thats why the very awakened ones go into isolation and 
seclusion.

"Those who speak do not know, those who know are silent, 
  I heard this saying from the old gentleman (Lao Tzu). 
  If the old gentleman was one who knew the Way,
Why did he feel able to write five thousand words?" as Bo Juyi describes...


  
So don’t take anything too seriously.

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The above does not say it — because it cannot be said!!


   
   
    posted to Mahamudra
   
        
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  Nothing Needs to Happen!
   
   
  Q: I heard a teacher said that when you sit with no-mind after a while 
something will happen. How do you understand this statement?
   
  A: When you sit with no-mind there is no need for anything to happen! The 
problem is that we are always waiting for something to happen. We are so 
miserable! Can you imagine, a person reaches state beyond thinking and still 
craving for something more! Is there anything which can satisfy you? Don't you 
see that when you wait for something to happen no longer it is the no-mind 
state?
   
  Do not look for the second head - one is enough! Do you know the story about 
a beggar who had a diamond in his pocket and still was looking for the food in 
the trash? Most seekers are like this beggar. They are all life digging in the 
trash instead of using their inner diamond. It is much better to drop this term 
'enlightenment.' It has poisoned the blood and flesh of all seekers. It is an 
arrogant term and ego uses it against its original purpose. Look for Reality 
and not for enlightenment.
   
   
      
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  Enlightenment, because of its mysterious nature,
  has become a subject of so many fantasies!
  But what is the reality behind it?
  Do you want to know?
  If yes - look inside and see who you are Now!
   
   
   
   
       


 
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