Hi Patrick,

On Thursday 10-Feb-00, Patrick Ford wrote:

> On 09-Feb-00, Mike Leavitt wrote:

>>> messages' from the menu does the same. The only way I can get them
>>> out is to select Message/Edit and click on the `Send' bar in the
>>> edit window.
>> 
>> If you are hitting store inatead of queue or send, this would be the
>> expected result. 

> How does one hit `Queue'? Mine has no `Queue' button in the message
> editor window.  It has Send, Store and Cancel.
[...]
> So far he nearest I have got to making it work in a  sensible  fashion
> is  to  use  Send  while  not on line. There is a delay until it finds
> there's no TCP/IP stack and the message gets queued. It more  or  less
> works, but is far from satisfactory.

Go to Settings => General settings... => Network, and then check the
"Automatically check status of TCP/IP stack?" box.  The "send" will then
change to a "queue" while you are offline.

> Another thing that seems to be broken  is  the  way  the  text  editor
> trashes  quoted  text.  If  lines  exceed the preset 70 columns by the
> prefixing of `greater than' sign, it doesn't reflow them properly, and
> every  (short)  second  line  has the `greater that' sign missing.

Is "wordwrap by default" switched on in MuiPrefs => TextInput => Options? 
Try increasing the width in the same area to something more like 79, that
way you are more likely to only follow-up messages with shorter character
widths, and the problem will not occur.

> The only way I have found to fix that is to edit in GoldEd and  use  a
> script  to  strip  the  `greater  than' signs, reflow and format to 65
> columns and then replace the `greater than' signs.  It  takes  only  a
> moment, but it's still annoying having to do it.

One for Jules to MD2-Arexxify :-)

> I'm trying hard to convince myself that the problems I have  with  MD2
> are  simply  that I am not used to the way it works, but it's becoming
> harder to believe that all the time.

It does have a few bugs.  It seems that Olli spends less time on MD-2, then
on any of his other projects.  Now that V� Final has been released, I would
have thought some develpment would have gone into MD-2.  There's an entry
almost every month in Olli's plan file saying "I will release an update to
MD-2 soon", or "I know MD-2 needs work; I haven't forgotten".  We rarely
see updates, and the ones which do appear only seem to be minor bug-fix
updates.  There are some important things still missing, unimplemented or
downright weird in MD-2 and the TextInput class.  #Coloured# text appears
while editing, but does not show up in MD-2 while reading (likewise, but
opposite, for /italics/), the Message Filters don't work under certain (ie.
most) circumstances, editing messages does not keep the "References:"
header, resulting in broken threads.  All these things should be fairly
simple to add/fix, but have been known about for months and nothing has
been done yet.

Chris

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