On 7 Jan 2011, at 15:19, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > On 1/7/2011 7:10 AM, Glen Gray wrote: >> On 7 Jan 2011, at 14:46, Dave Neary wrote: >> >>>> This raises then the obvious question of Why ? >>>> What tangible benefits does moving to Upstart offer. >>> I can answer this... >>> >>> Upstart supports old init style scripts, but that's not all it supports. >>> You can do things like have inter-service dependencies, so that if >>> service A needs service B to be available first, they you can tell it to >>> wait for service B in its upstart config file. >>> >>> Upstart can watch config files and reload them, if it's told to, without >>> you having to do so explicitly (which is pretty cool). >>> >>> Upstart supports on-demand starting of services (in a DBus like way). >>> >>> systemd offers essentially the same benefits. >> I understand the general benefits of Upstart. What I mean is what does it >> offer MeeGo over SysVinit for the upcoming 1.2 release. Especially if the >> plan is still to move to systemd for 1.3 >> (see Carsten's link to the Arch meeting). The MeeGo init script stack (at >> least for x86) is based on the MoblinV2 stack. And the MoblinV2 stack was >> tailored to be fast and use SysVInit. The premise for not using Upstart then >> was along the lines of "Starting lots of bloated blocking code in parallel >> isn't as good as finding out why things are slow and fixing them). >> >> It seems like a futile effort to port to upstart for 1 release, ditch it and >> move to systemd. The only potential benefit would be that the boot process >> would be structured to depend on some of the parallelisms but that seems >> like little incentive. > > > the only reason to do upstart now is the integration with the security > framework. If it wasn't a hard requirement for the security framework, we'd > not be doing this one-release weird choice.
Wasn't aware of the Nokia backstory here, makes sense when in that context. Thanks. -- Glen Gray <sla...@slaine.org> _______________________________________________ MeeGo-dev mailing list MeeGo-dev@meego.com http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-dev
