The S12 struts probably have a couple of degrees of positive camber on a 510
without modifications. I've never looked at S13 ones so I've no idea what
they are like. The S12 is the early to mid 80's Silvia/Gazelle. The S12
struts look very similar to 280ZX ones at first glance. The S12 springs will
rub the inside of the tower so they need changing and the locator ring at
the bottom is a dfferent size but I was just going to get the top of my
balljoint spacers machined to suit. I was hoping I could get enough neg
camber without modifying lower arms but not so. All I really need to do is
knock up some adjustable bottom arms and convert to 56mm ID springs and I'm
in buisness.
The disks on the S12 struts here are 10.75 inch diameter... not sure how
thick though. They are fairly heavy although I would say they are lighter
than 280ZX ones. The only other issue with using the S12 ones is the hub
face is offset outward much further so you'll need somw FWD offset rims. Not
a prob as most modern mags are like this now anyway.
Sadly we never got the R31 (or R30) here. I've only ever seen one R31 ever.
I can lay my hands on an R30 GT Turbo for about £400 at the moment but
probably not worth it just for brake parts.
The advantage of the S12 struts over 910 would probably be the overall
length being shorter. 910's here all have vented disks which haul them up
pretty good so I don't doubt the brakes on them at all. The 910 ones will be
the correct angle for camber though whereas the S12 aren't.
Eddie
England
510, KP710, B10, KB110,
B110, B120, J710SSS, H230,
G620, P330, SRL311, C30,
VBF10, E10, S12, 910SSS
T910
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----- Original Message -----
From: Zac Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: S12 brakes
> Nick,
> He is talking about the S12 - the same model as the Gazelle we got here.
In
> America they were called the 200Sx, and in Japan the Silvia.
> The S13 180SX struts are these big heavy ugly things (according to PL) and
> there is no point in fitting them to a 1600. The brakes are crap too
> apparently, but they would make fitting 4 spots easier.
> The S13 180SX are 4 stud hubs and you could use the disc if you want. S14
> 200SX are 5 stud hubs.
>
> I'm not sure the UK market got the R31 models.
>
> zac
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ken Abraham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 3:30 PM
> Subject: Re: S12 brakes
>
>
> > Eddie,
> >
> > What model years are you talking about, specifically for the
200SX/Silvia?
> > Are you saying that the mid eighties Gazelles have the same sort of
strut
> as
> > the late 90's 200SX?
> > If so, why are we all stuffing around with old struts when we can bolt
in
> > cheap Japanese import struts from a crashed 180SX or etc... with 4
spots,
> > 30mm wide discs, heaps of neg. camber and sports shocks!!!!
> > Unfortunately though, the 180/200SX's we get over here are 5 stud hubs -
> but
> > we could use 910 or Gazelle hubs and U13 discs to convert them..
> >
> > Anyway,
> >
> > Why not use the S12 strut complete?
> >
> > All you need is a spacer/adapter ring for the steering arm locating
> spigot.
> > Use an R31 caliper as this will accept a 22mm wide R31 vented disc, the
> > stock 910 / S12 Gazelle caliper will only accept one 16mm wide - At
least
> in
> > Oz, UK spec. may be different.
> >
> > I am currently running a 910 strut front end, only gripe is spring
> diameter
> > is too big and it only just fits into my towers, on full lock there is
> > bugger all clearance so I had to relocate my Ignition coil (self tapping
> > screws fouled the top spring seat)
> > .
> > S12 struts are supposed to have more neg, camber than standard Datto
> struts,
> > another reason to use them.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Nick
> > 1978 Datsun (A10) Stanza
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Saturday, 13 January 2001 10:39 AM
> > Subject: S12 brakes
> >
> >
> > > I just found that the S12 (200SX / Silvia / Gazelle) hub and 10.75"
> vented
> > > rotor will fit straight on a 610 strut... can anybody suggest a
calliper
> > > that might work? The calliper mounting lugs are 3" apart (centres) but
> as
> > > the S12 rotor is offset outward much further there is space to make up
a
> > > thick adapter plate for the calliper so the bolt spacing isn't
crucial.
> > The
> > > S12 caliper/paper weight won't quite fit. I just wondered if this
> > conversion
> > > is possible.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Eddie
> > > England
> > > 1969 510 4door
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > www.ratdat.com
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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