Heres an intersting thing I heard from my dad. Hear it out and then let
the comments fly:
A scientist was studying the petrol industry some years ago when ULP was
being phased in. His argument was that the big push to bring in ULP,
that the lead in petrol is dangerous to children's health, was a hoax.
Manufacturers wanted to fit new cars with catlithic converters to filter
the exhaust fumes, the problem was that the lead in petrol was detroying
the catalithic converters in a few months. So he claimed that the real
reason to push the use of ULP was from the manufacturers of the cat
converters because they wear out in 12 months even when using ULP and
need to be replaced. Obviously theres a profit to be made, and so enter
stage left ULP and government regs to enforce it ...
Has anyone heard anything of such a cover up or am I just rambling?
Anthony
-----Original Message-----
From: Zac Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 1 March 2001 10:57
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: EFI L series engines and other fuel problems
I've always ran my car on PULP except for the occasional long trip when
I
ran on leaded.
I've always been told ULP is fine in an L-series. Those that tell you
otherwise seem to not know much about Datsun motors specifically.
zac
----- Original Message -----
From: Justin Friedrichs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 9:50 AM
Subject: RE: EFI L series engines and other fuel problems
> Hi List
> I have been told by an engineer and a engine builder that any L series
> datsun with an alloy head can run unleaded fuel, it does not need LRP
as
> alloy heads are softer than the valves so valve recession or scoring
would
> not be a problem. Appartently using unleaded fuel is only a big
problem if
> the head is cast iron obviously much harder than aluminium where valve
> problems occur.
> But I am still a bit careful, I use premium every other tank full.
>
> Justin
>
>
>
>
> > I read that article in the Perth Street Car magazine a couple of
years
ago
> > when
> > we first got LRP over here.I had already been running the LRP for a
couple
> > of
> > weeks and couldn't figure out why my plug readings were always
rich(black
> > soot).Even my rear bumper had black soot on it.The 02 sensor
indicated a
> > good
> > mixture and no oil was being used.I then changed to BP Ultimate 98
and
got
> > some
> > color back in the plugs.If the motor is going to be pushed for
extended
> > periods
> > then I add a bit of Redline lead replacement addative for extra
> > saftey.Running
> > the addative was on the advise of my local engine reconditioner who
looks
> > after
> > a few desert racers.He told me that one of the motors running on
premium
> > had bad
> > valve recession and cylinder scoring while the other had been
running
> > C16(high
> > lead) and was in good condition after one season.He then used the
Redline
> > lead
> > substitute with the premium and found very little or no valve
recession
> > after a
> > season.He reckons any high performance especially turbo charged cars
even
> > late
> > model engines that are being put under load for long periods should
use
> > some
> > sought of valve and cylinder protection.
> > Andrew Smith
> > Errol Smith wrote:
> >
> > > Terry,
> > > The anti-seize was for the plug threads to aid plug removal.
> > > It makes it a bit hard to come up with inexpensive valve build
specs
for
> > a
> > > good streeter now doesn't it.
> > > I think the full race treatment with Serdi Silchrome (Silicon
chromium
> > > steel) seat inserts and 214N stainless valves may become the
standard
> > fare
> > > for normal engines, to handle these crap fuels.
> > > That article was a good read thanks Terry
> > > Cheers
> > > Feral Errol
> > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > http://www.datrats.com.au/
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Terry
Rudd
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 10:38 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: EFI L series engines and other fuel problems
> > >
> > > Errol,
> > >
> > > LRP is indeed PULP with an avsr (anti valve seat recession)
additive.
> > >
> > > Here an excerpt from an interesting article from Redline and the
link
to
> > the
> > > complete article for whoever is interested is below. It's a good
read.
> > >
> > > "We will be using the LRP formulae the fuel companies decide are
the
> > most
> > > commercially acceptable, for them, in the vehicles we are trying
to
use,
> > to
> > > preserve and enjoy, so perhaps we should have a look at the fuel
we
are
> > > being asked to use in our pride and joy and see what our options
may
be.
> > The
> > > basis for the new wonder LRP is Unleaded Petrol. In fact it is
Premium
> > > Unleaded, because adding a volatile hydrocarbon to accelerate and
> > stabilize
> > > the burn rate of the fuel has raised the octane."
> > >
> > > http://members.iinet.net.au/~peter99/FEB2000.HTM
> > >
> > > regards
> > > Terry
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Errol
Smith
> > > Sent: Tuesday, 27 February 2001 8:27
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: EFI L series engines and other fuel problems
> > >
> > > Richard,
> > > Sounds like a liberal coating of anti-seize is the go.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > Feral Errol
> > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > http://www.datrats.com.au/
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Richard
Clough
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 7:29 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: EFI L series engines and other fuel problems
> > >
> > > You are right about the spark plugs getting crappy with LRP.
> > >
> > > I thought I was going to strip the thread in the alloy head when I
went
> > to
> > > remove the plugs, after only 1000 kms using LRP. The carbon was
> > embedded
> > > into the lower thread and I suspect after a few plug removals,
helicoils
> > > will be as rare as hen's teeth. I had to really apply torque on
the
> > plug
> > > spanner for about a quarter of every plug extraction before they
> > loosened to
> > > a "normal" plug removal feel.
> > >
> > > I have just read that LRP is Premium ULP with a lead replacement
> > > additive(Today's RACV monthly) - could this be correct?
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Tuting, Anthony" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, 27 February 2001 9:40 AM
> > > Subject: RE: EFI L series engines and other fuel problems
> > >
> > > > That LRP is nothing but trouble, my mum was putting it in her
car
('80
> > > > C0r0na) and was wondering why the car was running so bad, there
was
no
> > > > pickup, no power just simply no guts. I told her not to fillup
at
> > Shell
> > > > or Woolworths and so the next day she just got BP and it was
back to
> > > > normal.
> > > > Same thing happened to my friend on the weekend, his '83 L@$er
was
> > > > nearly stalling at idle and he had done the same thing, told him
to
> > put
> > > > some 'real' fuel in and it was all good.
> > > >
> > > > Has anyone noticed that the spark plugs get crapped up a lot
quicker
> > > > from this stuff?
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Zac Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: 26 February 2001 21:54
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Re: EFI L series engines and other fuel problems
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Richard! Amy hasn't been running the Capella on that horrid LRP
has
> > she?
> > > >
> > > > zac
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Richard <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Clough
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 10:13 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: EFI L series engines and other fuel problems
> > > >
> > > > Zac,
> > > > Its called PT, not a Cruiser by Chrysler - public transport!
> > > >
> > > > So where's your good advice on whats wrong with the Mazda? I'm
> > thinking
> > > > it may be a tight tappet adjustment, any other thoughts?
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Zac <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Campbell
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, 24 February 2001 22:20 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: EFI L series engines and other fuel problems
> > > >
> > > > So what is Amy driving this week?!
> > > >
> > > > Stay tuned same time next week, for 'The Cloughs'!
> > > >
> > > > :)
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Richard Clough <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: Datsun 1600 <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2001 9:24 PM
> > > > Subject: EFI L series engines and other fuel problems
> > > >
> > > > Luke Clough has been have little joy in his 1600 since
installing a
> > VL
> > > > Commodore fuel pump to his EFI L series engine last week. His
idea
> > was
> > > > to overcome fuel starvation being experienced on very hot days
after
> > > > sitting at the lights, by pumping more fuel to cool the rail.
> > > >
> > > > Problem became even more pronounced this week leading to
> > embarrassments
> > > > like pushing the car after it dies at the lights!
> > > >
> > > > I travelled to Melbourne today tandem trailer in tow and I was
under
> > > > instruction by my financial advisor (wife, Lynn) to hand over
her
> > > > Commodore to Luke, so he had reliable transport for work until
he,
or
> > I,
> > > > had his fuel problem sorted out.
> > > >
> > > > I have been nagging him to replace the original fuel pressure
> > regulator
> > > > ever since he fitted the engine, as its adjustment thread was
worn
> > out.
> > > > Obviously motivated by the threat of driving the Commodore, Luke
> > finally
> > > > did it today. The replacement regulator cost $4 (off a 6 cyl
EFI
> > > > Skyline). So far, his engine is purring and pulling strongly at
5500
> > -
> > > > something it didn't do before- hopefully problem solved.
> > > >
> > > > I'm not saying anything.
> > > >
> > > > Meanwhile his sister Amy's Mazda Capella (piston engine) has
been
> > > > reluctant to start when cold. It pops and spits back as if it
has
a
> > > > manifold leak, or is running lean. But as soon as it gets a
tiny
bit
> > of
> > > > heat in the engine it runs like a watch. I have swapped
carbies,
> > fitted
> > > > a new coil, leads and points, checked for leaks in the manifold.
No
> > > > change.
> > > >
> > > > Any Suggestions anyone?
> > > >
> > > > I had to smile as I was coming home from Melbourne tonight still
> > towing
> > > > the tandem, with the Mazda leering at me in the rear view
mirror. I
> > was
> > > > supposed to be bringing the Datto home to fix, but a simple $4
part
> > got
> > > > it going well. However, $64 didn't fix the Mazda - typical. I
wish
> > we
> > > > had another 1600 for Amy.
> > > >
> > >
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