hey eddie that was a fair essay on datsun history and very informative - thanks for that.
andrew > RE: Help needed with spring selection and 240k strut questionThought > I'd try to shed some light on these three models as there seems to be > some confusion over which is which. > > Despite the model code "710", it didn't come after the 610 in model > series only number. The 610 was launched in 1970 a little bit before > the 710, ultimately as a replacement for the 510, although the 510 > lived on until 1974. The sucessor to the 610 was the 810 (200B there). > The 510, 610 and 810 formed the Bluebird series. The 610 was known as > either 160B or 180B in Europe and just 180B in Australia as you guys > were lucky enough not to get the L16 in it :-) In the US it's just > called "610" and of course Bluebird in Japan. Japan also got the 610 > with a six cylinder L20A engine in the Bluebird-U. The 610 comes as > four door sedan, two door hardtop or wagon. Both sedans and coupes get > IRS and SSS badges on some models in Japan. > > > The 710 on the other hand was an intermediate model between the > Bluebird (610) and smaller Sunny range (120Y) hence the smaller > engines and was the first model in the short lived Violet series. The > 710 is also a physically smaller car than a 610 in spite of the fact > it shares much of the 610's floorpan and chassis. The 710 was sold as > a Violet in Japan but not as an Auster or Stanza ...the succeeding > model, the A10 was the first to carry those names (see below). The 710 > came as a 140J or 160J elsewhere and just plain old "710" in America > (although the US model is significantly different to all others and > has an L20B). Outside of the US, the 710 series came with either L14 > or L16 engines in both coupe and sedan forms. A wagon was available > too. The SSS came in both sedan and coupe, both of which had IRS > unlike the non-SSS coupes, sedans and the wagon which always had a > live axle. > > > The Stanza sold in Australia is an A10 and was actually a Violet in > Japan. The A10 came in three forms in Japan....Stanza, Auster and > Violet and formed a rather confusing range. The Stanza has very large > single rectangular headlights throughout it's production. The dual > small rectangular headlights were fitted to facelifted Violets from > June 1979. Prior to that they carried dual round headlights. The > Japanese Auster had dual round headlights initially but with a > different grille to the violet and later, medium sized single > rectangular headlights with smaller rectangular lights mounted in the > grille. The A10's came as a four door sedan, five door hatchback or > coupe. There was also a wagon available. Europe got the A10 model > badged as a 140J (powered by an A14!) or 160J (L16) and later just as > a Violet. Early cars had the Japanese Violet front end and later cars > had the later Auster front ends (but were called Violets ...confusing > or what!) Europe only got the four door sedan and the SSS coupe. > Nissan USA called it a 510 in an effort to sell it as a replacement > for the original, real 510. Their cars came in the same styles as > Japanese Violets but had initially an L20B and later Z20 (or Z22?) > engines. They also recieved the wagon, a five door hatchback and a two > door sedan alongside the coupe and four door sedan. All A10's have > solid rears, even the SSS, SGX-E and GT-E. > > > All of these Datsun models came with EFI at some time on various > specifications. There were no Turbo A10's although apparently Nissan > did some testing of Turbo 710's in Japan for motorsport use in the mid > 70's according to the motoring press back then. > > So..in summary the models go like this... > > Bluebirds... > 310 > 312 > 410 > 411 > 510 > 610 > 810 > 910 > U11 > U12 > > Violet/Stanza/Auster... > 710 > A10 > T11 > T12 (T72) > > I'll get my model history done on my website soon which will list > every single Datsun model since 1911 including trucks and buses with a > picture of each one. It's about 2/3 done at the moment but I just > haven't had time to finish it. If anyone want pictures of the various > models I can scan some and send them. Apart from the turbo 710, which > if anybody has pictures of I'd like to see them! > > Cheers, > > Eddie > England > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > www.ratdat.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Rowe, Adam > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 10:40 PM > Subject: RE: Help needed with spring selection and 240k strut > question > > > I was only going off web pages I have seen. I have not seen one in > person. So I am probably wrong. Why would nissan bring out a car > after the 180B (610) and fit a smaller motor to it? > > -----Original Message----- > From: maldat [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 19/11/2001 17:45 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Help needed with spring selection and 240k > strut > question > > What year would that be? > All 710 violets had L16 > Now I think i have seen a violet that also had a stanza badge on > the > boot and it was a 80's model "A10" in the usa they called them > 510's.they had L18,L20's etc.I think this was turbo as well?. > > Malcolm > > "Rowe, Adam" wrote: > > > > The Violet had the L18 or L20B. And they were a little ugly. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Cleary Signs [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 19/11/2001 15:28 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Help needed with spring selection and 240k > strut > question > > isn't a violet the same as a stanza? but 2.2L or 2.0L? > > > --membersozdat------------------------------------------------------ > - OZDAT Mailing List Please Note:- Send (un)subscribe requests to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send submissions to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] No unauthorised redistribution of > this email http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm > http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > - > > --membersozdat------------------------------------------------------- > OZDAT Mailing List Please Note:- Send (un)subscribe requests to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send submissions to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] No unauthorised redistribution of this > email http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm > http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > --------------------------------------------------------- --membersozdat------------------------------------------------------- OZDAT Mailing List Please Note:- Send (un)subscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] No unauthorised redistribution of this email http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------
