Thats the same reply i get every time i phone them.One guy here just refused to
say anything at all about roll cages.
Andrew Smith

Terry Rudd wrote:

> Thanks Chris, you've just answered my next question. I've asked the RTA a
> couple of times why they are illegal for road use without certification and
> i've only ever had the usual reply i.e. **Shrug; grunt, they just are**
>
> regards
> Terry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chris Simpson
> Sent: Saturday, 23 February 2002 3:45 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Whiteline suspension upgrade
>
> Rose joints are good, sorry to disagree but you can get rose joints in
> various load ratings up to 1000's of kg.  You dont see ball joints and tie
> rod ends on F1 cars, they all run rose joints on every point.
>
> I think you'll find the ones you were looking at were very low load rating
> ones ment for tieing your patio shade cover up or something rather than
> suspension use.
>
> The "proper" rose joints for automotive use are expensive, i dont know
> exact prices, but each joint can run into $300-400.
>
> As far as i am aware rose joint are illegal on the road mainly because they
> have never been ADR approved, and no company is going to waste the money to
> get their's ADR approved.  It not so much that they are not safe or that
> they are much harder riding, but it is that they are not ADR approved and
> hence the legal costs could be huge!
>
> Chris S
> maldat writes:
>
> > Rose joints,,,,Bad...
> > I went in to a race car shop and looked at them a few years back but when
> you
> > hold them in the middle and feel the slop,I can not see where their is a
> up
> > grade.
> > I asked the guy about it and he said they shouldn't be like that,I asked
> why are
> > most of them on your wall like that?.
> > I walked out,That was cardwell racing ,They are not in my town now and are
> only
> > in auckalan I belive(thank goodness)
> >
> > Malcolm
> >
> > Terry Rudd wrote:
> >
> > > Chris,
> > >
> > > I am lead to believe it's the rose joints that are illegal for street
> use in
> > > the ACT unless you have rally rego. Some of the Nismo adjustable control
> > > arms of the 70's era had shims and they don't seem to mind them.
> > >
> > > regards
> > > Terry
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chris Howard
> > > Sent: Friday, 22 February 2002 4:36 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: Whiteline suspension upgrade
> > >
> > > What's illegal? The fact that it has shims? Or the rose joint? Or just
> > > because it's a modified suspension arm?
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Terry Rudd
> > > > Sent: Friday, 22 February 2002 2:50 PM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: RE: Whiteline suspension upgrade
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Leighton,
> > > >
> > > > Fergy is in Canberra, and when he says illegal he means it as
> > > > they are a tow
> > > > home item with a sticker if you get caught down town in Brads
> > > > with them in.
> > > > (one of the deadly sins) so that's why I'm very interested in
> > > > Cams Whiteline
> > > > post.
> > > >
> > > > regards
> > > > Terry
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Leighton
> > > > Sent: Friday, 22 February 2002 2:29 PM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Re: Whiteline suspension upgrade
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > hmm  where is "here" what state are you in??  why are they
> > > > illegal( i know
> > > > it seems obvious but i just like to ask)
> > > >
> > > > i wouldlove to do the  upgrade - but i fear from reading the
> > > > article that
> > > > was in hot fours or whatevr says that to get the car to
> > > > handle - the car has
> > > > to be flat - so that when its done the rear end looks lower
> > > > then the front
> > > > bcoz of the guards - does the rear become to low??
> > > >
> > > > It states that when its lowered and flat the half shafts be
> > > > come almost
> > > > horizontal thus giving a better power output to the wheels
> > > >
> > > > hmm some food for thought - i dont know but i would love some
> > > > more info on
> > > > the upgrade
> > > >
> > > > thanx
> > > > Leighton
> > >
> >
>

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