YEP!!!!! Some people are just born lucky!!! I would be boying a lotto ticket that night for sure!!! Cheers NAT
--- Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Speaking of rally accidents, did any of you see the > race a week or two > ago where the car came off the road, end for ended > straight towards a > spectator who just stood there, and then at the last > minute the car > flipped high in the air and cleared him? > > Tuesday, June 11, 2002, 10:01:35 PM, you wrote: > > RC> These purpose built Group B cars were basically > racing technology in a "road > RC> going skin". Only 200 had to be built (not > necessarily registered) to > RC> qualify them as Group B rally cars. > > RC> They were being driven on public roads at huge > speeds and a couple of major > RC> prangs involving fatalities to spectators sealed > the fate of these cars. > RC> They were replaced by Group G (I think). This > formula required 5000 road > RC> registered versions to be produced to make them > eligible as rally cars. > RC> ----- Original Message ----- > RC> From: "Adam Jackson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > RC> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > RC> Sent: Sunday, 9 June 2002 22:54 PM > RC> Subject: Re: Lancia Delta S4 - 4wd Group B rally > weapon > > > >> what was the reasoning behind banning this > particular car? because it was > >> too quick? > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Richard Clough" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 10:38 PM > >> Subject: Lancia Delta S4 - 4wd Group B rally > weapon > >> > >> > >> > I have just searched my archives and found the > specs of the Lancia Delta > >> S4 > >> > Group B rally car. It goes close to my most > desired car. > >> > Here they are: > >> > Produced in mid 1985, it had an Abarth engine > of 1759cc mid/rear > RC> mounted, > >> > with a KKK Turbo plus Volumex "compressor" > (supercharger) providing 1.35 > >> > Bar. The early cars produced 298KW at 8000RPM > and 392 Nm of torque at > >> > 5000RPM (and over 270Nm at 2000RPM.). Rev > limit was 10000RPM, so it was > >> no > >> > slugger! > >> > It had a driveline that looks like a Subaru > flipped front to rear, > RC> engine > >> > longitudinal but behind the crew, with the 5 > speed gearbox facing > RC> forward. > >> A > >> > twin plate clutch driving through front, rear > and centre diff, which > RC> could > >> > only be altered for front to rear balance by > mechanical adjustment. > RC> (This > >> > was improved by the time they were winning > ralllies) > >> > Wheels were 8 by 16 front and 12 by 16 in rear, > under huge boxed guard > >> > flares, popular at the time. > >> > A very short exhaust pipe poked under the rear > skirt from the KKK turbo > >> > which was mounted across the drive line, 90 > degrees to the trend today, > >> the > >> > exhaust went through the turbo in a spiral, > exiting on the outer > >> perimeter, > >> > not doing a right angle turn and exiting from > the centre as is the > RC> common > >> > turbo design today. The air intake came through > vents in the roof. > >> > > >> > The car weighed 870 Kgm, the minimum allowed > for the class. It was > >> basically > >> > a tube frame chassis with a kevlar shell. Body > specs were: > >> > Wheelbase 2440mm > >> > Overall length 3990mm > >> > Width 1880mm > >> > Hight1400mm > >> > Weight to power 3.00Kgm per kW (Not too bad > eh?) > >> > > >> > This Lancia dominated European rallying for 2 > years until it was banned. > >> > This was a very desirable vehicle in its day > and still is - anyone know > RC> of > >> > one for sale? > >> > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > From: "Richard Clough" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > Sent: Sunday, 9 June 2002 20:05 PM > >> > Subject: Re: Fastest 1600 vs Lancia 4wd weapon > >> > > >> > > >> > > OK Errol I will. > >> > > > >> > > Anyone know who hires these specialised > videos in Melbourne? > >> > > > >> > > I must search my back issue motor mags to get > a drawing of the Lancia > >> > Delta, > >> > > it was before the Stratos and much more > radical in its engineering, > RC> The > >> > > Stratos was mild in comparison, as it > conformed to the new regs after > >> the > >> > > Group B rally cars were banned. > >> > > > >> > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > > From: "E Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > > Sent: Saturday, 8 June 2002 23:12 PM > >> > > Subject: RE: Fastest 1600 vs Lancia 4wd > weapon > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > Check out the video "too fast to race!" if > you get the chance. > >> > > > > >> > > > Cheers > >> > > > Feral Errol > >> > > > > >> > > > -----Original Message----- > >> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf Of Richard > >> Clough > >> > > > Sent: Saturday, 8 June 2002 9:50 PM > >> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > > > Subject: Re: Fastest 1600 vs Lancia 4wd > weapon > >> > > > > >> > > > Is this the Lancia that helped their WRC > domination? > >> > > > They were called Deltas. Basically they > were a very little box, > >> smaller > >> > > > than a Datsun 1600. > >> > > > > >> > > > Purpose built for WRC they were the first > truly modern rally car, a > >> > > > generation ahead of the more conventional > Audi Quattro 4WD that had > >> > > > dominated prior to these arriving. The big > difference was the layout > >> of > >> > > the > >> > > > driveline, which put the mid engine behind > the gearbox. The box sat > >> > > between > >> > > > the driver and nav facing "backward". They > had a 1600cc engine > RC> where > >> > the > >> > > > back seat would be normally. They had a KKK > supercharger for lowdown > >> > grunt > >> > > > which cut out and a turbocharger took over > at high revs. HP was > RC> 300, > >> > all > >> > > > you could put down on a road in a 4wd car > weighing bugger all. The > >> > > > suspension was also high tech. > >> > > > Although they looked like a high tech > nightmare in drawings, they > RC> were > >> > > very > >> > > > easy to work on as most important bits were > spread well apart, even > >> > though > >> > > > the engine was inside the car. They got > banned when Group G? rally > >> cars > === message truncated === http://www.sold.com.au - SOLD.com.au - Find yourself a bargain! --membersozdat------------------------------------------------------- OZDAT Mailing List Please Note:- Send (un)subscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] No unauthorised redistribution of this email http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------
