On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 5:01 PM, Christian Becker <lobe...@googlemail.com>wrote:
>
> 2009/10/28 Martin Grotzke <martin.grot...@googlemail.com>
>
>> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 8:04 PM, Christian Becker <lobe...@googlemail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> 2009/10/27 Martin Grotzke <martin.grot...@googlemail.com>
>>>
>>>> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Christian Becker <
>>>> lobe...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>> They argument with too big session objects and too many requests/traffic
>>> for the memcached - but i already did some calculations and there would be
>>> max. 1500 req/s, which are no problem for memcached (i have some running
>>> with more than 2,5k/sec) and traffic should also be easy to handle.
>>>
>> Ok, both are valid things to consider. Keeping sessions small is always a
>> goal (IMO). How big are your sessions (e.g. when calculating the size of the
>> object graph, or after they were serialized using java serialization)?
>> What's the characteristics of your session attributes: lots of objects of
>> the same class, or a deep object graph (if you might provide examples this
>> would be great)? I'm actually interested in this because I want to compare
>> several serialization strategies in respect to serialization performance and
>> serialization size.
>>
>
> Sorry, i dont know. I am not in the development team, so i have no infos
> about that :( I only can rely on the infos they tell me - but it seems as
> some of the team are now interested in a test :)
>
Ok, great. If they have more details or any questions we can take this over
to the memcached-session-manager discussion group:
http://groups.google.com/group/memcached-session-manager


>
>
>>
>> Regarding the throughput: is 1500 req/s the number of requests you have to
>> serve in total, or the number of requests per machine? What was your test
>> setup and test that reached 2,5k/sec?
>>
>
> Our Tomcat cluster has to handle about 1500 req/s.
> The thing i know is, that memcached is very performant because one of our
> memcache servers currently handles about 2.5k req/s (belongs to another
> service - independent of our tomcat cluster ;)
>
Ok.

Cheers,
Martin



>
>> Cheers,
>> Martin
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Martin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks again,
>>>>> christian
>>>>>
>>>>> 2009/10/27 Martin Grotzke <martin.grot...@googlemail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Christian,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I created the memcached-session-manager (msm) for the relaunch of one
>>>>>> of the biggest sites in germany, therefore it's designed to be performant
>>>>>> and scalable :) (the relaunch is still under development). We're just in 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> process of integrating msm in other projects as well, as session 
>>>>>> failover is
>>>>>> often not fully covered.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, some users should already be using it, according to the issue
>>>>>> tracker and the mailing list (and some email conversations I had with
>>>>>> others).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Concerning performance and stability: as the memcached-session-manager
>>>>>> itself does no resource intensive processing itself, performance and
>>>>>> stability mainly depends on memcached and spymemcached (which is used for
>>>>>> communication with memcached). Both are proven technologies which are 
>>>>>> used
>>>>>> in production.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In terms of performance it's interesting to consider, that session
>>>>>> backup can be done asynchronously, so that your requests/responses do not
>>>>>> have to wait until the session is sent to memcached (by default, the 
>>>>>> backup
>>>>>> is done synchronously). If sessions are sent to memcached synchronously, 
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> can specify the timeout for this. I just added these things (*
>>>>>> sessionBackupAsync, sessionBackupTimeout) to the documentation, was
>>>>>> still on my list, see
>>>>>> http://code.google.com/p/memcached-session-manager/wiki/SetupAndConfiguration
>>>>>> *
>>>>>> *
>>>>>> *
>>>>>> *Cheers,
>>>>>> Martin*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 4:31 PM, Christian Becker <
>>>>>> lobe...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Martin,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> this looks really great. Since we also use tomcat for our platform,
>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>> would like to use it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But, can you please tell me a reference where you already use it?
>>>>>>> It would be great if you can tell me a bit about the performance and
>>>>>>> stability.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> thank you,
>>>>>>> cheers,
>>>>>>> Christian
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 25 Okt., 01:38, "martin.grotzke" <martin.grot...@googlemail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> > Hi,
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > I just release memcached-session-manager 1.0:
>>>>>>> http://code.google.com/p/memcached-session-manager/
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > It's a session failover solution for tomcat, sending sessions to
>>>>>>> > memcached after a request is finished, so that this session can be
>>>>>>> > picked up by other tomcats if one tomcat fails.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > It would be great if the memcached-session-manager could be listed
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> > the wiki on the page for related projects:
>>>>>>> http://code.google.com/p/memcached/wiki/MemcachedOffspring
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Any other feedback is also welcome of course :)
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Thanx && cheers,
>>>>>>> > Martin
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Martin Grotzke
>>>>>> http://www.javakaffee.de/blog/
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Martin Grotzke
>>>> http://www.javakaffee.de/blog/
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Martin Grotzke
>> http://www.javakaffee.de/blog/
>>
>
>


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