*** chuckles @ michael's fantasy :-)...then remembers how juries are
selected ***

On Aug 30, 10:55 pm, Isparklaria <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is how you determine who is too fixed to vote:
>
> You have each person solve a series of crimes. They get evidence
> including testimony and that is how they decide. First though you have
> 10,000 people solve these crimes to make sure that most people can get
> them right most of the time (an exact number has yet to be determined,
> but it is close too 100%). You make the evidence better and better
> until most people get most of them right.
>
> Once these crimes are easily solvable, then the fun begins. In the
> first version, when the test is being calibrated the suspects were
> simply Suspect A, Suspect B etc. Also in the first version all
> evidence is presented in a dry neutral was. Now when you are testing
> the person’s ability to think for voting purposes, you give the
> suspects names faces and bios. This would include their religious
> beliefs, their age, their sex, political affiliation etc. You could
> even have actors playing the suspects make videos. All of the
> witnesses now have names, faces and the like too. They present the
> evidence in any thing but a dry manner. In this way you can group
> things to together to find out if someone will discount evidence
> because, for example, it comes from a woman atheist who speaks in a
> gruff voice, and is damning to a suspect they like because the suspect
> is like them. This is just one thing you can do to through a monkey
> wrench into the subject’s ability to think clearly and sort out the
> facts.
>
> I will mention one other thing and then leave it to you to think of
> others. In some cases you can allow false evidence to cause the person
> being tested to make the wrong choice. Then after they have chosen,
> you can have that evidence impeached along with a perfectly good
> reason to through it out. The notification of the decision to impeach
> the evidence, will some from different characters. You will see how
> that will influence whether the subject accepts the impeachment or
> not. The subject will be allowed to change their decision. Before hand
> the subject has been told that they will be disqualified if they
> change to often or not often enough. Also you have some case where the
> evidence that is being impeached is inconsequential. The subject
> should make the same choise if they are thinking clearly.
>
> As to how to define who is not too fixed or too mercurial? Well that
> is; those who pass the test are suitable for voting. Ah, but what is
> the passing score. That remains to be determined. After the first
> 10,000 people help calibrate the evidence, then another 10,000 take
> the real test to get some idea how people will actually do on it. Then
> you some up with some kind of mean, mean, standard deviation type
> thing to determine a passing mark. At the end, I get to tweak the
> whole thing manually. ;-)
>
> On Aug 30, 6:28 pm, ornamentalmind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "... it would be, in my opinion, easy to define "too set" to think
> > straight..." - Michael
>
> > Michael, how *would* you define it? I find it quite difficult.
>
> > On Aug 30, 12:45 pm, Isparklaria <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > On Aug 30, 2:17 pm, Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > Agreed.  But that changes your criterion; you would remove the voting
> > > > rights of those with *bad* memes.
>
> > > I wrote in the intial post:
>
> > > This would include nearly all
> > > religious fundamentalists as well as others who are overly infected
> > > with any powerful memes.
>
> > > After examining the evidence, I realize that I wasn't clear even to
> > > myself (if my memory serves me correctly). Under my original
> > > hypothetical proposal, I would not remove the voting rights of those
> > > with *bad* memes. Instead I would remove the voting rights of those
> > > with memes that prevented them from gathering new information
> > > rethinking their positions even if they wound up usually coming to the
> > > same conclusion. However a test could be set up to find out if a
> > > person was too set or to easily influenced. Finding out if a person
> > > was too set would be relatively easy since it would be, in my opinion,
> > > easy to define "too set" to think straight. Actually I would allow
> > > some leeway here, becuase the exact point at which a person is over
> > > the line is not that clear. But, way too set is obvious, at least to
> > > me. Such people should not be allowed to vote, in my opinion (half
> > > kidding mind you).Too open to change would be harder to define, but I
> > > believe that such a thing exists.
>
> > > On Aug 30, 2:17 pm, Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > <<it is possible that some of us operate under the control of memes
> > > > that
> > > > seek to find the truth, even when it means proving that some of our
> > > > most cherished beliefs (memes) are wrong. >>
>
> > > > Agreed.  But that changes your criterion; you would remove the voting
> > > > rights of those with *bad* memes.- Hide quoted text -
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