Hmmm...  I have yet to have anyone convince me that consciousness resided in
the little toe and was yellow.  If there comes a time when I can become
convinced that consciousness comes in yellow toes, I will agree I have none.

Liz

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ornamentalmind
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 8:19 PM
To: Memphis Freethought Alliance
Subject: Re: The Future for a non secular State.


An analogy about aspects of the list...IF I said that consciousness
resided in the little toe and was yellow, would anyone agree?

On Sep 1, 6:17 pm, ornamentalmind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "... "Na na na na na NAH!" " - Liz
>
> Perhaps I miss the association with the above; however, IF it merely
> means 'No.', then I would ask for clarification to support that
> response.
>
> On Sep 1, 6:15 pm, "Liz Purkrabek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "it says more of your view of any such notion than mine."
>
> >   I suspected someone would say that, but to that I say, "Na na na na na
> > NAH!"
>
> > Liz :-)
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected]
>
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> > ornamentalmind
> > Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 8:12 PM
> > To: Memphis Freethought Alliance
> > Subject: Re: The Future for a non secular State.
>
> > Hi Liz! Very nice list.
> > Of course, as humorous as it is, it says more of your view of any such
> > notion than mine. IF it is taken seriously in any way, it merely
> > points towards some sort of anthropomorphic beith/thing.
> > In answer to your 20th question which others have pointed towards,
> > There is much written about The One by
Plotinus.http://www.iep.utm.edu/p/plotinus.htm
> > IF anyone is interested in reading more than a website, I have found
> > that Plotinus', The Enneads, tr. Stephen MacKenna, with Introduction
> > and Notes by John Dillon (Penguin Books: 1991) is the best translation
> > to date and can at least point towards his apprehensions.
> > For me, in the current context, I would point more towards negative
> > theology. Of course, by its very nature, no description is valid. But,
> > of course, this is known by all atheists.
>
> > On Sep 1, 11:34 am, "Liz Purkrabek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Okay,
>
> > > 1. Is the One blue?
> > > 2. Does it eat popcorn?
> > > 3. Can the One create fjords?
> > > 4. Does the One like butter and syrup or jelly on its waffles?
> > > 5. Does the One fly on a rocket ship and expect devotees to castrate
> > > themselves and commit suicide to catch a ride?
> > > 6. Can he/she/it make balloon animals (I like balloon animals.)?
> > > 7. Can the One help me on a Spanish test?
> > > 8. Does the One care if George sleeps with Bob?
> > > 9. Does the One watch Letterman or Leno?
> > > 10. Does the One create anything (besides fjords if question three is
> > > answered    affirmatively.)?
> > > 11. Does the One destroy anything?
> > > 12. Does the One look like anything humans have seen?
> > > 13. Is the One really two or more?
> > > 14. Can one pray or otherwise ask favors of the One without looking
silly?
> > > 15. If the One could or does it, would it be more likely to eat fried
> > > chicken or sushi?
> > > 16. Would the One vote Republican or Democrat (or Libertarian or
what?)?
> > > 17. Does the One like amputees?
> > > 18. Does the One like cats or dogs (not to eat, but to pet)?
> > > 19. How many Ones does it take to screw in a light bulb?
> > > 20. Is the One describable in any way other than in cryptic short
> > responses
> > > that grant no understanding of the concept of the One?
>
> > > Liz
>
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [email protected]
>
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> > > ornamentalmind
> > > Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 1:06 PM
> > > To: Memphis Freethought Alliance
> > > Subject: Re: The Future for a non secular State.
>
> > > "...Skip that questions! New first question: Is "I AM" related to or
> > > the
> > > same as "the One"?" - michael
>
> > > I have no idea michael. Sorry....
> > > I do not understand whatever associations you appear to be using.
>
> > > On Sep 1, 9:17 am, Isparklaria <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > On Sep 1, 1:41 am, ornamentalmind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > And, as I clearly said, I have no belief(s) in gods. Thus, I AM an
> > > > > atheist.
>
> > > > Orn, I'd like to play a game of 20 questions.
>
> > > > First question: Is "the One" that you refer to, bigger than a
> > > > breadbox?
>
> > > > Skip that questions! New first question: Is "I AM" related to or the
> > > > same as "the One"?
>
> > > > On Sep 1, 1:41 am, ornamentalmind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > "You have a belief that "the One" exists, which sounds like theism
to
> > > > > me." - Taylor
>
> > > > > Hi Taylor!
>
> > > > > Perhaps you missed it where I said "...what may appear to be
semantics
> > > > > and  for me at least is a simple clarity..."?
>
> > > > > Regardless, we can debate this forever.
>
> > > > > I am in no way evangelical.
>
> > > > > You have made a claim about what I believe. I will not strongly
point
> > > > > out what could be seen as your claim to omniscience! Nor will I
play
> > > > > the game of demanding that you prove your claim.
>
> > > > > And, as I clearly said, I have no belief(s) in gods. Thus, I AM an
> > > > > atheist.
>
> > > > > On Aug 31, 8:32 pm, Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > <<I hold no dogma/beliefs about the One. Since there are no
beliefs,
> > > > > > there is no theism.>>
>
> > > > > > You have a belief that "the One" exists, which sounds like
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