Yes, I did use capitalization for 'the One' in that that is the common
way to differentiate it from 'the one'. Further, I have recently
resorted to caps to place emphasis on words ... mainly because my word
processing program, which I use to write these in and check spelling
with alters words that start and end with "*". Perhaps I'll use some
other convention to help reduce misunderstanding ("confusion"). Yet,
this is the first instance of such misunderstanding (confusion) of the
use of caps I've run into for quite a few years...On Sep 2, 7:39 am, Clogtowner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi y'all - yes I sent you off in the wrong direction as I thought > Michael's post was biblical - "I am that I am." Nevertheless, you were > the One who started the capitalization which caused confusion. > I didn't think Michael would quote Descartes as he knows my motto > "Imbibo ergo sum" > > On Sep 2, 1:05 am, ornamentalmind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I won't ask.... > > > On Sep 1, 10:00 pm, Isparklaria <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Sep 1, 8:49 pm, ornamentalmind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Anyway, I wonder how those words can refer to a god? Strange. > > > > For those who need gods "I AM" can accomodate them. However, those who > > > do not resist "I AM" do not make "I AM" into a god or God. The don't > > > need God or gods and godesses. If they have any gods or such it is for > > > entertainment purposes only, or to manipluate others who need God or > > > gods and godesses. > > > > On Sep 1, 8:49 pm, ornamentalmind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > “…In the absence of this, I can reveal that my consciousness is a > > > > software > > > > program running in my brain….” – Clog > > > > > Of course, consciousness is neither software nor a program. And, its > > > > exact location let alone nature has never been found. > > > > > “…I adjust the program regularly by adding and discarding relevant > > > > nodes and changing pathways….” – Clog > > > > > Again, not software. Further, who/what is this “I” you mention? And, > > > > this notion of ‘self’, as yet undefined, nor the location of which > > > > known, would require a very big leap of faith (including many gaps) to > > > > posit that ‘it’ can produce direction/adjustment as you suggest. Of > > > > course, due to the previous, it has not been proven as a mechanism > > > > either, let alone it’s locality. > > > > > “…It can be fun. I haven't figured out what color it is yet - that > > > > seems to vary with the wavelength of the particle beam and the mood > > > > I'm in. When I'm thinking of Michael it turns rather dark, but Liz > > > > brightens it considerably….” – Clog > > > > > Hehe…analogies analogies! > > > > > “…I think Michael's "I AM" is either referring to Popeye the sailor > > > > man, or a god.” – Clog > > > > > Interesting. While I know Popeye, Popeye was a friend of mine, and you > > > > my dear Clog…..;-) > > > > Anyway, I wonder how those words can refer to a god? Strange. > > > > > On Sep 1, 6:36 pm, Clogtowner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Hi y'all - it seems out of character for you to make such a sweeping > > > > > generalization. However, if you would specify which little toe and > > > > > belonging to whom, I may be able to totally rebut your claim. In the > > > > > absence of this, I can reveal that my consciousness is a software > > > > > program running in my brain. I adjust the program regularly by adding > > > > > and discarding relevant nodes and changing pathways. It can be fun. I > > > > > haven't figured out what color it is yet - that seems to vary with the > > > > > wavelength of the particle beam and the mood I'm in. When I'm thinking > > > > > of Michael it turns rather dark, but Liz brightens it considerably. > > > > > I think Michael's "I AM" is either referring to Popeye the sailor man, > > > > > or a god. > > > > > > On Sep 1, 8:19 pm, ornamentalmind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > An analogy about aspects of the list...IF I said that consciousness > > > > > > resided in the little toe and was yellow, would anyone agree? > > > > > > > On Sep 1, 6:17 pm, ornamentalmind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > "... "Na na na na na NAH!" " - Liz > > > > > > > > Perhaps I miss the association with the above; however, IF it > > > > > > > merely > > > > > > > means 'No.', then I would ask for clarification to support that > > > > > > > response. > > > > > > > > On Sep 1, 6:15 pm, "Liz Purkrabek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > "it says more of your view of any such notion than mine." > > > > > > > > > I suspected someone would say that, but to that I say, "Na na > > > > > > > > na na na > > > > > > > > NAH!" > > > > > > > > > Liz :-) > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > From: [email protected] > > > > > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > > > > > > > ornamentalmind > > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 8:12 PM > > > > > > > > To: Memphis Freethought Alliance > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: The Future for a non secular State. > > > > > > > > > Hi Liz! Very nice list. > > > > > > > > Of course, as humorous as it is, it says more of your view of > > > > > > > > any such > > > > > > > > notion than mine. IF it is taken seriously in any way, it merely > > > > > > > > points towards some sort of anthropomorphic beith/thing. > > > > > > > > In answer to your 20th question which others have pointed > > > > > > > > towards, > > > > > > > > There is much written about The One by > > > > > > > > Plotinus.http://www.iep.utm.edu/p/plotinus.htm > > > > > > > > IF anyone is interested in reading more than a website, I have > > > > > > > > found > > > > > > > > that Plotinus', The Enneads, tr. Stephen MacKenna, with > > > > > > > > Introduction > > > > > > > > and Notes by John Dillon (Penguin Books: 1991) is the best > > > > > > > > translation > > > > > > > > to date and can at least point towards his apprehensions. > > > > > > > > For me, in the current context, I would point more towards > > > > > > > > negative > > > > > > > > theology. Of course, by its very nature, no description is > > > > > > > > valid. But, > > > > > > > > of course, this is known by all atheists. > > > > > > > > > On Sep 1, 11:34 am, "Liz Purkrabek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Okay, > > > > > > > > > > 1. Is the One blue? > > > > > > > > > 2. Does it eat popcorn? > > > > > > > > > 3. Can the One create fjords? > > > > > > > > > 4. Does the One like butter and syrup or jelly on its waffles? > > > > > > > > > 5. Does the One fly on a rocket ship and expect devotees to > > > > > > > > > castrate > > > > > > > > > themselves and commit suicide to catch a ride? > > > > > > > > > 6. Can he/she/it make balloon animals (I like balloon > > > > > > > > > animals.)? > > > > > > > > > 7. Can the One help me on a Spanish test? > > > > > > > > > 8. Does the One care if George sleeps with Bob? > > > > > > > > > 9. Does the One watch Letterman or Leno? > > > > > > > > > 10. Does the One create anything (besides fjords if question > > > > > > > > > three is > > > > > > > > > answered affirmatively.)? > > > > > > > > > 11. Does the One destroy anything? > > > > > > > > > 12. Does the One look like anything humans have seen? > > > > > > > > > 13. Is the One really two or more? > > > > > > > > > 14. Can one pray or otherwise ask favors of the One without > > > > > > > > > looking silly? > > > > > > > > > 15. If the One could or does it, would it be more likely to > > > > > > > > > eat fried > > > > > > > > > chicken or sushi? > > > > > > > > > 16. Would the One vote Republican or Democrat (or Libertarian > > > > > > > > > or what?)? > > > > > > > > > 17. Does the One like amputees? > > > > > > > > > 18. Does the One like cats or dogs (not to eat, but to pet)? > > > > > > > > > 19. How many Ones does it take to screw in a light bulb? > > > > > > > > > 20. Is the One describable in any way other than in cryptic > > > > > > > > > short > > > > > > > > responses > > > > > > > > > that grant no understanding of the concept of the One? > > > > > > > > > > Liz > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > > From: [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > > > > > > > > ornamentalmind > > > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 1:06 PM > > > > > > > > > To: Memphis Freethought Alliance > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: The Future for a non secular State. > > > > > > > > > > "...Skip that questions! New first question: Is "I AM" > > > > > > > > > related to or > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > same as "the One"?" - michael > > > > > > > > > > I have no idea michael. Sorry.... > > > > > > > > > I do not understand whatever associations you appear to be > > > > > > > > > using. > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 1, 9:17 am, Isparklaria <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 1, 1:41 am, ornamentalmind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > And, as I clearly said, I have no belief(s) in gods. > > > > > > > > > > > Thus, I AM an > > > > > > > > > > > atheist. > > > > > > > > > > > Orn, I'd like to play a game of 20 questions. > > > > > > > > > > > First question: Is "the One" that you refer to, bigger than > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > breadbox? > > > > > > > > > > > Skip that questions! New first question: Is "I AM" related > > > > > > > > > > to or the > > > > > > > > > > same as "the One"? > > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 1, 1:41 am, ornamentalmind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > "You have a belief that "the One" exists, which sounds > > > > > > > > > > > like theism to > > > > > > > > > > > me." - Taylor > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Taylor! > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps you missed it where I said "...what may appear to > > > > > > > > > > > be semantics > > > > > > > > > > > and for me at least is a simple clarity..."? > > > > > > > > > > > > Regardless, we can debate this forever. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am in no way evangelical. > > > > > > > > > > > > You have made a claim about what I believe. I will not > > > > > > > > > > > strongly point > > > > > > > > > > > out what could be seen as your claim to omniscience! Nor > > > > > > > > > > > will I play > > > > > > > > > > > the game of demanding that you prove your claim. > > > > > > > > > > > > And, as I clearly said, I have no belief(s) in gods. > > > > > > > > > > > Thus, I AM an > > > > > > > > > > > atheist. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 31, 8:32 pm, Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > <<I hold no dogma/beliefs about the One. Since there > > > > > > > > > > > > are no beliefs, > > > > > > > > > > > > there is no theism.>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > You have a belief that "the One" exists, which sounds > > > > > > > > > > > > like theism to > > > > > > > > > > > > me.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Memphis Freethought Alliance" group. 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