Of course, almost any 'rule' about who must prove what can be proposed. Some will agree others won't. So, for the case of deity, this doesn't help the discussion.
Now, when one says emphatically that god does not exist, it is very easy to ask what the person making that claim believes does not exist. That is, what do they mean by god? Few will go further. Those that do, clearly have their own belief about what god must be, and, because of this belief, decide to reject any such notion. Of course, many other views are ignored here. In the last case, ignoring the ironic definition, to suggest that empiricism is valid when it comes to the divine, which by most definitions does not become known by the common senses, is almost a non sequitur. So, were does this leave us? With whatever belief one has which, in most cases, is built upon a foundation of sand. On Sep 10, 10:04 pm, "Jason (Memphis)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > These arguments are pointless. God absolutely does not exist. My > definition of God is "a nothing that never was something and never > existed." Therefore, God (by the definition) does not exist. God is > the greatest of all things and nothing imaginable is greater than > God. Nothing imaginable can do a greater feat than God. Nothing and > absolutely nothing is more amazing than God. Something existing and > creating the universe is amazing; however, even more amazing is > nothing creating the universe. So again, God is nothing and never > existed. If God did exist, the imagined nothing that never existed > creating the universe would be more amazing than God. That is > impossible because God is the most amazing. > > The point is that these arguments depend on the definition of God. > Some God definitions are easily knocked down by empirical research. > Other definitions of God are pounded down by philosophical arguments. > Other definitions of God are so abstract and so esoteric and so > untouchable that such a God is not god at all as far as have any > philosophical or practical or detectable impact on our daily lives. > In my opinion, the best arguments for atheism and a summary of > arguments for and against the existence of God is George Smith's > "Atheism: The Case Against God." > > Jason > > On Sep 10, 8:49 pm, Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > <<Most atheists that I know go with the definition: >> > > > But many go a bit further and say "God does not exist." In fact, I > > bet Clogtowner says that. That is more than a simple lack of belief.- Hide > > quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Memphis Freethought Alliance" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/memphisfreethoughtalliance?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
