Personally I prefer to use the word "story" rather  than the word "claim".  
That Jesus popped out of Mary's virgin hoo-haa  is a story.  For me to say 
"crapola" is not a story, it is a refutation of  a story.  If you say that me 
saying "the story crap" is a claim,  fine.  I claim that the story is bull.
 
J.
 

<<These arguments are pointless. >>

What  arguments?

This is a discussion of rhetoric.  For an atheist to  say "I make no
claim" is a poor position to take.  Yes, some atheists  make no claim,
but others do.  If you are arguing with a theist, you  will come across
as disingenuous to only defend the "weak atheism"  position, when the
stronger version is defensible and what they really  imagine atheism to
be  about.








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