Orn. said:

"Of course, anything can be 'proven' when it is what is being looked
for."

Please explain?

stemcell




On Oct 4, 2:27 pm, ornamentalmind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My thoughts? Well, the first one that comes to mind is the clear adage
> that you can tell the result of a study by who funds it. In this case,
> a Theological University, Baylor. (The article is not the study
> itself.)
>
> I've thought long and hard about going through the article line by
> line and pointing out how it abuses clarity of thought and in many
> cases does so in very subtle ways. Perhaps one day.
>
> For now, here is the 2005 
> survey.http://www.isreligion.org/research/surveysofreligion/isr_wave12005_su...
>
> and here is the late 2007 survey upon which the current news stories
> and articles are discussing.
>
> http://www.isreligion.org/research/surveysofreligion/isr_wave22007_su...
>
> Simple example of questions include question 12:
>
> By your best guess, how would your current place of
> worship feel about each of the following? (Please mark
> only one box for each item a-i.)
> Forbids
> ��
> Strongly
> discourages
> ��
> Somewhat
> discourages
> ��
> Encourages
> ��
> Isn't
> concerned
> ��
> Don't
> know
> ��
> a.
> Pornography 
> ...........................................................................-......
> b.
> Gambling 
> ...........................................................................-............
> c. Wearing revealing
> clothing .........................................................
> d. Premarital
> sex 
> ...........................................................................-....
> e. Living together before
> marriage ................................................
> f. Use of
> contraception 
> ....................................................................
> g.
> Abortion 
> ...........................................................................-.............
> h. Homosexual
> behavior .................................................................
> i. Displays of
> wealth.....................................................................-...
>
> Of course, anything can be 'proven' when it is what is being looked
> for.
>
> About their 2005 study, the University says on their website the
> following:
>
> "Utilizing a mixed-mode sampling design (telephone and self-
> administered mailed surveys), the Baylor Religion Survey is a
> nationally representative survey of 1,721 respondents and is merely
> the first wave of a rich and rewarding new era of religious survey
> research. Additional waves of the Baylor Religion Survey, with
> rotating topical modules, will take place every other year."
>
> Elsewhere on their site is this:
>
> "WASHINGTON, D.C. - American religion is remarkably stable and quite
> surprising in its diverse beliefs, practices and realities, according
> to the latest findings from the Baylor Religion Survey, one of the
> most extensive surveys ever conducted on American religious
> attitudes."
>
> A cursory analysis shows that in this first paragraph of their own
> press release put out by their marketing department,  religion that is
> 'remarkably stable' also is diverse in beliefs, practices and
> realities. A truly remarkable conclusion!
>
> OK, enough about what caused Mollie to write her article. Within her
> article, her personal bias and belief is clear to those who wish to
> look. ('...have eyes to see...')
>
> Overall, to attempt to equate dogma and blind belief with being more
> rational than exploring all areas of thought is itself so blind and
> conservative as to negate any such study.
>
> On Oct 4, 10:19 am, Aaron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > What do you think of this recent column in the Wall Street Journal by
> > Mollie Ziegler Hemingway?  She argues that traditional religious
> > beliefs protect people against pseudoscience and superstition, and
> > that wide-spread atheism will cause society to become even more
> > irrational.
>
> >http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122178219865054585.html?mod=googlenew...
>
> > Aaron- Hide quoted text -
>
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