When people are talking about the constitution, they  try to figure out what 
the founding fathers meant by this and that as if they  were gods.  The 
founding fathers are dead and I don't particularly care how  they would 
interpret 
something.  What I care about is what is in the best  interest of the world as 
we know it now.  Trying to figure out what the  founding fathers would do or 
what they meant is like trying to figure out what a  doctor of that age would 
do 
to treat cancer.  It is  irrelevant.
The bottom line is I am packing a legal pistol and I  am happy that law 
abiding citizens have that right.
 
J. 
 
 
In a message dated 10/24/2008 7:24:43 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Hi  y'all - I always have something to say! I like the comment,  comment
regarding Militia. The clause is "the right of the people to keep  and
bear arms shall not be infringed." It doesn't matter what the  reason
is, the intent is clear. If the sentence had continued "on  Jesus'
birthday" or some other modification, then the right could have  been
restricted, but the operative word is infringed, which to me  means,
chipping away at the edges of, in this context. Let's not let  anyone
chip away at it.

On Oct 24, 4:17 pm, Aaron  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "A well regulated Militia, being  necessary to the security of a free
> State, the right of the people to  keep and bear Arms, shall not be
> infringed." US Constitution,  Amendment II
>
> We all know the story behind this contentious bit  of legalese.  The
> republic's first generation was worried about a  nationalized, standing
> army.  For all they knew, the President  would become a dictator or
> Congress would enslave the States.  The compromise was to protect the
> State militias.  It was  hoped that the militias would balance a
> national army.  Hence,  the Second Amendment.
>
> Fast forward 200 years.  We have a  very advanced, nationalized,
> standing military that conducts  operations all over the world.  The
> State militias have evolved  into the National Guard.  So, how does
> that affect the Second  Amendment?  Does Joe the Plumber have a
> constitutional right to  own a handgun?
>
> The Supreme Court has said precious little  about this, but the Court
> has always tied gun ownership to the militia  clause.  Until this
> summer, that is.  The Court ruled (5-4)  that an individual's right to
> own a gun did not derive from a need for  State militias, as had always
> been thought.  Rather, the right to  "bear arms" was an independent,
> pre-existing right.  All that  militia stuff was just a comment - just
> one reason to protect the  individual's right to own a gun.
>
> The other judges called  "bullshit!"  The Second Amendment has always
> been about militias.  Past Court decisions have always affirmed that
> connection, and  even if the Constitution does prevent *Congress* from
> outlawing guns,  the text clearly gives regulatory rights to the
> States.  Or so  they say.
>
> What do you say?
>
>  Aaron
>
>  http://www.supremecourtus.gov/opinions/07pdf/07-290.pdf


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