Amen brother.
 
J.
 

"...something you may not have had the luxury to explore  yet."
"...since that is what you seem to have used."

Why so many  assumptions over so little text?

As for appeals, I appealed to science  itself (i.e., basic physics).
I'd consider that an appeal to basic  knowledge, as opposed to an
appeal to authority.

As for my use of  "appears", I noticed that that might be a point of
contention (after I had  posted); but I could have just as easily used
"is".  He was correct in  his statement of how we perceive/see/observe
light.

I'm unconcerned  with the Uncertainty Principle here -- only your
comments on his comments  about light.

-BC-


On Oct 28, 12:35 pm, ornamentalmind  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> “Please elaborate on these  claims.” – BC
> “His description appears to be right on the mark.” –  BC
>
> First, I’ll agree that the description appears to be on the  mark.
> Underline the term ‘appears’. That is my point.
>
>  I’m talking about appearances in a philosophical way, something you
>  may not have had the luxury to explore yet.
>
> When I said “‘We’  don’t even know what waves nor light are.”, I had
> hoped that one had  studied enough to have come across some of the
> following notions  others have presented as support for the gestalt I’m
> attempting to  present. I’ll use a couple of them as my appeal to
> authority for now,  since that is what you seem to have used.
>
> “The human mind has  first to construct forms, independently, before we
> can find them in  things.” - Albert Einstein.
>
> “It is important to realize that  in physics today, we have no
> knowledge of what energy is. We do not  have a picture that energy
> comes in little blobs of a definite amount.  ” - Feynman. 1987
>
> " We don't know what we are talking about" -  Nobel laureate David
> Gross referring to the current state of  string theory
>
> “Since the mathematical physicists have taken  over, theoretical
> physics has gone to pot. The bizarre concepts  generated out of the
> over use and misinterpretation of mathematics  would be funny if it
> were not for the tragedy of the waste in time,  manpower, money, and
> the resulting misdirection.” - Richard  Feynman
>
> "I feel that we do not have definite physical concepts  at all if we
> just apply working mathematical rules; that's not what  the physicist
> should be satisfied with." - Dirac
>
> For a  ‘layman’s’ view of and differing arguments pro and con RE:
> Uncertainty  Principle  
see:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Uncertainty_Principle
>
>  Similar one liners and analysis are legion.
>
> On Oct 28,  10:36 am, BC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On Oct  28, 4:06 am, ornamentalmind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote:
>
> > >> “Red is a word used to refer to a light  wavelength of about 650 nm.
> > >> Whether you can see it or  not or whether it looks purple to you does
> > >> not change  the wavelength. We use different words to refer to
> > >>  different wavelengths for simplicity sake. Red is red regardless of
>  > >> ones perception of it.” - J.
>
> > >  Apparently you are using a limited and pseudoscientific epistemology.
>  > > ‘We’ don’t even know what waves nor light are. Tell me you  don’t
> > > accept the uncertainty principle. You further suggest  that ‘we’ know
> > > what a color is even if we can’t see it and  don’t use a word for it. A
> > > strange view indeed! Earlier the  notion of scientific dogma arose.
> > > Please tell me it ain’t so  Joe!
>
> > Uhhhhhh......  Pseudoscientific?  A  strange view?  WTF?  Please
> > elaborate on these  claims.
> > His description appears to be right on the mark.  Research E&M and
> > spectroscopy, for starters.
>  > -BC-


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