I can understand the significance of using the word "nigger" in such a way. I don't know if many African Americans would appreciate someone who is not an African American using the term though. Have you had any negative experiences with people who don't think white people should ever use the term?
What sort of automotive inventions have you worked with. My grandfather was a modification engineer at GE aircraft, and he was a high school drop out from the hills of West Virginia. I guess he was whitetrashwise. :-) Seriously though, what is a gift artist? I don' think I've ever heard of one. How is your daughter now by the way? Was she adopted from within your family, or did you specifically pursue the adoption of a non relative? What were the circumstances of the adoption? I hope she's doing well. Liz -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of BBDD Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 4:42 PM To: Memphis Freethought Alliance Subject: Re: democrats rule Of course you are wrong! As stated I became very comfortable with the word in black ghettos. Brothers owning that word gives them pride and well it should. In using the word "niggerwise" I pay them homage. It acknowledges the wisdom born of their suffering while challenging the book wisdom you pretend with. It is used for a reason. I am an inventor. I do now have a degree but it was acquired after the fact to meet ISO 9000 requirements because many of my inventions are automotive. I did it without training. I did it niggerwise. I am a successful artist. I was Elvis Presley's gift artist for many years. I started working in an old fashioned hard type print shop at the age of ten. I can paint as well as any master. I have never had an art lesson in my life. I do it niggerwise. I am a certified master engraver. No training at all. I knew the man who started the certification program before he passed on. I said he would not even presume to test me. I did it niggerwise. I adopted a child who all said had no chance to survive even to see her fifth birthday. They said lots of things. That she couldn't learn. That she wouldn't even experience emotions. A quarter of a century I fought to keep her alive. Not just alive ~ beamingly happy. No one showed me how to do that. I did it niggerwise. I could go on. There is a way one can pay attention to mind that makes all things possible. I call it niggerwise because it is discovered only in extreme adversity. http://niggerwise.com On Nov 5, 4:08 pm, "Liz Purkrabek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm sorry you feel that way. If you were a real freethinker, then you would > know not to question the legitimacy of those of us already on this board. > Real freethinkers understand what must seem to some as "ranting and raving," > but unfortunately not everyone has the capacity to do so. Those who > tragically are unable to accept that we of the MFA mailing list have > transcended the usual understanding of what it means to be a freethinker are > missing so much. But hey, maybe there is only so much wisdom to go around. > Some of us have been allotted massive intellects with which to make deep > intellectual journeys into the outermost fields of inquiry, and some of us > have not been so truly "blessed." > > As for the use of the word "nigger." I really don't care. You keep > repeating it, I suppose because you like the reaction you feel you get from > it, but really it's just a word. I agree with you there. None the less, it > is a very loaded word, and I have yet to be shown the significance as you > are using it. I think perhaps it is only for the perceived shock value and > as a potential cursor magnet and does not have any particular symbolic > value. Correct me if I'm wrong. I originally asked the question in the > spirit of curiosity. > > Liz > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of BBDD > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 3:38 PM > To: Memphis Freethought Alliance > Subject: Re: democrats rule > > Look, you are not free thinkers. In reacting the way you did, you were > Palinist. That is NOT A PERSONAL INSULT! A free thinker knows a word > like "nigger" is not offensive in itself. Friends call each other > "nigger". To point out that your reactions betray that you are not all > you imagine yourselves to be is reasonable. I question any here are > capable of REAL free thought. I make my living at it. I have some > bases for questioning your legitimacy based in your reactions to me. > My posts were in response to negativity expressed in TOPICS I STARTED > that had nothing to do with the topic or points made. Now, if you take > my response to defending myself as attack, that is just more evidence > of how much you lack in capacity for free thought. I not once > suggested anyone was mentally ill. I didn’t pretend to diagnose to > discredit. That was you folks. I merely suggest that if you do such > things you have a whole lot of growing up to do. That is not attacking > you personally. It is attacking your behavior; bnehavior that > definitely constitutes "ranting and raving". > > http://niggerwise.com > > On Nov 5, 3:20 pm, "Liz Purkrabek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I didn't insult you. I asked about the link name you post. Then someone > > else expressed their dislike of the link name by writing that they would > not > > click on the link. Since that time, some of us have merrily responded to > > your ranting and raving. I suggest you go back and reread the various > posts > > and do an insult count. You will find that although some, like myself, > had > > some fun at your expense (since your posts seem to be intentionally > inviting > > it) almost all of the insults and accusations that have been hurled have > > been by you. > > > But whatever. > > > Liz (Who is busy not clicking your link.) > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of BBDD > > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 12:27 PM > > To: Memphis Freethought Alliance > > Subject: Re: democrats rule > > > lsparklaria, I am sorry for insulting you. When I first arrived in > > this group I was roundly insulted. I challenged it to stop or I would > > return in kind. It did not stop. The mode of communication was set by > > others here who feel threatened by anything new. One need not suggest > > another is crazy or wrong in not seeing things as one does themselves. > > Frankly, I find the approach asinine and will gladly abandon it with > > an apology from those who so welcomed me here so rudely. In the mean > > time, just don't take anything personally. Others set this junior high > > school mode of exchange ~ not I. > > >http://niggerwise.com > > > On Nov 5, 12:14 pm, Isparklaria <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Nov 5, 12:03 pm, BBDD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > You, like most here spew regardless of fact. > > > > I don't claim to have any "facts." I am only working from my > > > observations and thinking. There are some intellectually honest > > > conservatives, in my opinion. Like most honest folks they rarely find > > > success in politics. > > > > I have a question for you, BBDD? Why do you attempt to insult me? Is > > > it to draw attention to yourself? > > > > On Nov 5, 12:03 pm, BBDD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > You, like most here spew regardless of fact. All here have expressed > > > > nothing but the most hockey primitive notions of politics. There is a > > > > camp within the Republican party that is very much like you. It is the > > > > idiots that think it is some kind of game one watches at the bar, that > > > > has a winning side and a losing side. These are the Carl Roves who > > > > think they merely need to more effectively hoodwink. You are no better > > > > than Carl Rove. The world is evolving past your sport of politics to a > > > > realization that real problems are reaching proportions that require > > > > we see things in a more mature, less sportsman like way. The defining > > > > moment in all this political season is when those they call "the > > > > Christophers" suggested that all fiscal conservatives vote straight > > > > Democrat to protest the direction the party has turned in coddling the > > > > redneck base. The Christophers are the real intellects... you know... > > > > that thing you pretend to be. > > > > >http://niggerwise.com > > > > > On Nov 5, 7:45 am, Isparklaria <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > On Nov 5, 6:28 am, BBDD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > That is a childish conclusion. Things are no longer about how long > > any > > > > > > silly political party predominates. > > > > > > Tell that to the necons and others who have taken over the > Republican > > > > > party. Above all else, it has been their goal to dominate. > > > > > > >This election, more than > > > > > > anything else, thankfully will force conservatives to redefine > > > > > > themselves. > > > > > > It is more likely that any redefination done by the so called > > > > > conservatives will be *ALL* about fooling the gulible into thinking > > > > > that they are out for them rather than becoming honest conservatives > > > > > who deserve a place in the policy debate. You can't fool all of the > > > > > people all of the time, but you can fool enough of the people enough > > > > > of the time to get elected. If it wasn't for the timing of the stock > > > > > market crash McCain may have won. This is not the old "straight > talk" > > > > > McCain either (who really wasn't all that straight talking. The > McCain > > > > > who ran against Obama is a sellout to the worst elements of his > party. > > > > > And Sarah Palin is likely to be their future. > > > > > > I hope you are right BBDD, and the conservatives rethink their game, > > > > > moving in the direction of honesty. This would likley make the dems/ > > > > > libs more honest too. I hope your're right, but I'm not betting on > > > > > it! > > > > > > On Nov 5, 6:28 am, BBDD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > That is a childish conclusion. Things are no longer about how long > > any > > > > > > silly political party predominates. In a desperate world it is > about > > > > > > what works beyond such considerations. This election, more than > > > > > > anything else, thankfully will force conservatives to redefine > > > > > > themselves. The situations created by Cheney/Bush rule and will > for > > > > > > some time. NO ONE can just reverse what has been done world wide. > > What > > > > > > remains to be seen is whether Obama, even with the balance now in > > > > > > Congress, will be able to assist us in surviving what is already > at > > > > > > play and defining the world. Even ending that ridiculous war > cannot > > > > > > suddenly make the damage done by it go away. Far more than the > > support > > > > > > of both houses, what Obama has that will make a tremendous > > difference > > > > > > is the admiration of most of that world we screwed up. We are not > a > > > > > > country anymore. No one is. Like it or not we are member nations. > > Now > > > > > > maybe we can be a beneficial member of that family. > > > > > > >http://niggerwise.com > > > > > > > On Nov 5, 5:21 am, "Jason (Memphis)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > democrats hold the presidency, the house and the senate...when > > clinton > > > > > > > and bush has this advantage, it didn't last their entire term.- > > Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Memphis Freethought Alliance" group. 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