Don't forget the bugbear of "original sin" On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 12:13 AM, ornamentalmind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> > Liz, assuming you are going to be speaking in front of an audience of > Christians, an interesting notion many of said faith seem to hold is > that IF a 'baby' dies before birth, they go immediately to heaven. For > these people, it can be said that to cause abortions is doing all such > potential lives a service, a favor. Assured eternal life in heaven. > Perhaps every conception should be aborted? ; - ) > > > > On Nov 10, 8:43 pm, "Liz Purkrabek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm making an outline of talking points for Wednesday night. I haven't > > finished the last two questions, although I know what I am going to say. > I > > would go ahead and type it out, but I am tired and have a test tomorrow. > I > > need to get some shuteye! > > > > Let me know if there are any other points I need to keep in > consideration. > > I'm sure there are many. > > > > See below: > > > > Vox Faith Forum Questions > > > > 1. When do you believe life begins? > > > > a. Inadequate question > > > > i. > Sperm > > and egg already alive > > > > ii. No > more > > life before sperm and egg join > > > > 1. Not suddenly "life plus" (no addition of soul) > > > > iii. More > > important question would be when is life developed to the point of > deserving > > rights > > > > 1. Subject of emergency contraception need not include discussions > of > > rights or suffering since fertilized egg may be only passed without > adhering > > to uterine wall before nervous system developed > > > > iv. If > there > > is a question of combined DNA > > > > 1. Exists in unconscious cells of human body (flaky skin cells, > > epithelial tissue of mouth, etc.) that is constantly being shed > > > > a. Body cells share as much consciousness as newly fertilized eggs. > > > > v. > Arguing > > that fertilized egg holds "potential" baby is misleading > > > > 1. Almost every cell of human body is potential baby in the age of > > cloning > > > > 2. "Scratching you nose destroys millions of potential babies." > > > > 3. Imagining a future life for a newly fertilized egg is creating > make > > believe scenario that wrongly misleads, making one feel that a tragedy > has > > occurred > > > > a. Life imagined was not destroyed. > > > > b. Life imagined for embryo is of the mind and values of the one > > imagining > > > > 2. What is a desirable place to intercept pregnancy? > > > > a. Preferably condoms or other forms of safe and effective birth > > control will prevent the sperm from meeting egg and the need for > emergency > > birth control > > > > b. If conception occurs, emergency birth control that prevents > > conception or implantation is preferable to medical procedure of abortion > > > > i. > Less > > physical (the least complicated procedure the better) and emotional > strain > > on the woman (from cultural stigma relating to abortion, not regret for > > having the procedure) > > > > c. If implantation is allowed to occur, pregnancy should be > terminated > > ASAP > > > > i. > First > > trimester abortion procedure less complicated and less expensive > > > > ii. > > Earliest intervention as possible insures that issues of fetal suffering > or > > denial of personhood do not develop > > > > 3. Do you feel that dispensing emergency contraception leads people > to > > more reckless sexual behavior? > > > > a. Absolutely not > > > > i. > Women > > who would seek out EC most likely proactive personalities to begin with > > > > 1. EC would be used when primary measure (condoms, etc.) fails > > > > ii. > > Numerous studies report no increase in transfer of STDs or other > indicator > > of risky sexual behavior. > > > > 1. (references) > > > > iii. Do a > > simple Google search > > > > 1. Numerous studies show no increase in risky behavior > > > > 2. Few to no objective evidence to suggest otherwise > > > > b. Maybe a few people would become engaged in risky behavior because > > they might decide to rely on EC > > > > i. I > > would imagine not statistically significant number > > > > ii. > Those > > people likely to engage in risky sexual behavior anyway > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Memphis Freethought Alliance" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/memphisfreethoughtalliance?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
