“…Ever get addicted to Mahjong? …” – CB

Nope. I did have one person teach me, but they were into the gambling
aspect…not I.

Go as far as games go is ‘King’ as I see it.

Oh, and not just ‘Enter the Dragon’ for me and ‘cheesy’ movies…I’ve
watched ‘em all…at least all I can find!

Kendo, if not for Tai Chi…I might have looked into it. There was a big
group studying it at the campus I was studying Tai Chi a few summers…
interesting to say the least.

When it comes to getting a bum kicked…in Tai Chi, I cause my own
flight to the wall during push hands practice. Not the apparent other
person playing. When I am empty, then they seem to fly, not I.




On Jan 6, 7:18 am, CrossBow <[email protected]> wrote:
> Thanks! Ha.  I have the paperback version of Sun Tzu on my desk in plain
> view and can't wait for one of the guys here at work to freak out....it's so
> unlady like to study ...war... geesh:)
>
> Ever get addicted to Mahjong?
>
> My aunt Yumiko is full-blood Japanese and came over in her twenties and the
> culture bug bit me when I was little. She had full silk kimono's and tea
> sets along with a huge pile of art supplies at her house.  She is loaded
> with personal charisma and still today has a sheet of black hair down to her
> hips and a classically flawless Japanese facial structure.  A great beauty.
>  Martial artist she is not, but her mind and way of doing thing is still
> culturally linked to Bushido!  Haven't seen Yumi in few years, but I want to
> tell her I understand more now, how americans and japanese of her generation
> and slightly before feel about each other  - about the great wars. My
> generation is going to have some of the same issues with Arabic Peoples.
> How she deals with it is important:)
>
> Through my sister I was introduced to the Bruce Lee phenomenon and martial
> arts.  It stuck for years and I still love a good viewing of Enter The
> Dragon...cheesy as it is;)  My former grand love affair in college was
> American Chinese with pure blood parents. He is a Kendo expert with a full
> body tattoo, and I just found him on facebook after all these years.  He is
> a fount of all things Chinese because his parents raised him in two
> languages - two cultures.
>
> Envious of you who know Tai Chi ! We are going back to Karate class this
> spring, together, me and my daughter. Sure to get my bum kicked:)
>
> On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 10:06 PM, ornamentalmind 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > For more about Sun Tsu, the standard source has some on him.
> >http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Sun+Tsu
> > I read his Art book many years ago. If you appreciate the general
> > motif, any of the classics will further, from the Yellow Emperor to
> > the  I Ching...from the Tao Te Ching to any good book on the game of
> > Go.
>
> > I had some wonderful books on Japanese art and architecture when I was
> > a kid. I was always attracted to their esthetics too.
>
> > I started to study Tai Chi around 1970 and have been an instructor for
> > decades.
> >http://www.taichifoundation.org/Yes, this has its origins in China
> > too.
>
> > I first learned the game of Go in the late 1950s and never played
> > chess after doing so.
>
> >http://www.usgo.org/index.htmlAnd, yes even though it is the national
> > game of Japan, it is believed to have originated at least 3,000 years
> > ago in China.
>
> > I studied 5 element acupuncture, admittedly of Chinese origin for a
> > few years, after having studied Tibetan medicine for a few years too.
> >http://worsleyacupuncture.com/
> >http://www.tibetanmedicine.com/index.html
>
> > It was only after studying acupuncture that I finally groked Taoism.
>
> > The cultures, while intertwined, have enormous differences. This is
> > easily studied.
>
> > On Jan 5, 1:27 pm, CrossBow <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Oh, I believe the trial was real we have to cover our asses to some
> > > degree. I don't personally know of anyone that thinks Bush didn't
> > fabricate
> > > an excuse anymore, but I suppose you can find them up the road in the
> > > closest baptist church. Check out the Great Derangement when you have
> > > time...one link I posted had a free e version.  I would be pissed if I
> > was a
> > > reporter in this era, how the hell would you know if what you see with
> > your
> > > own eyes is real?
>
> > > Pre-emptive strike is only used to effect if it can be successful.. this
> > > Bush whack-job was not in the long perspective was it? It was a bitchslap
> > > that hit the person standing next to the one you wanted to hit,
> > respectively
> > > eh?
>
> >  > On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Isparklaria <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
> > > > Whether or not shock and awe was out of Sun Tzu or not, Bush made some
> > > > concessions to modern geopolitical realities by giving a shout before
> > > > the attack. The surprise was lost (Sun Tzu uses surprise as one of his
> > > > most important weapons) but we looked a bit better in the eyes of the
> > > > world by offering not to attack if Sadam Hussien would agree to leave
> > > > the country. THat way the whole thing could look like Saddam's fault.
> > > > If he would just leave, we wouldn't need to attack.
>
> > > > Right now I am wondering whether or not the real Saddam did leave the
> > > > country. Perhaps Bush wanted to attack under any circumstances.
> > > > Perhaps the trial was just a show with a fake Saddam and the execution
> > > > also faked. Well this is probably not the case but I rarely refrain
> > > > from questioning the information we are fed.
>
> > > > As for the current sittuation. I don't know if it was planned, but in
> > > > the long run it may very well benefit the neocons. The mess is so bad,
> > > > I don't know if it can be improved much in 4 or 8 years. Soon the
> > > > masses will be ready the typical chicken hawk neocon candidates again.
> > > > Hopefully Obama will be a wise comader in chief by using negotiation,
> > > > embargos, threats of violence, violence and what ever other policies
> > > > he need to use. It is funny to say that violence can make the world a
> > > > more peaceful place, but sometimes the situation calls for it. In my
> > > > opinion even premtion is a good tactic, when used properly. Bushes
> > > > reckless use of preemption has made a good tactic look bad.
>
> > > > On Jan 5, 2:57 pm, CrossBow <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > Was "Shock and Awe" exposed, given a shout out, before it was
> > > > implemented? I
> > > > > can't remember.  If so, it would not be as effective as Sun Tzu would
> > use
> > > > > it, which would be much quieter, and with more deciet.  And, it would
> > > > have
> > > > > been effective because we would have know the enemy much better that
> > we
> > > > > did..as results have proven. Ha, I can see military history writers
> > > > slapping
> > > > > the Sun Tzu influence down in the final draft of Bush's story just to
> > > > make
> > > > > the shituation look like it was supposed to happen that way.  Blah!
>
> > > >  > On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Isparklaria <
> > [email protected]>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > Sun Tzu Lives! Okay so he probably never lived to begin with but
> > this
> > > > > > link goes to a page with some infomation about how much Sun Tzu has
> > > > > > influenced battles that the American army has fougt in. It mentions
> > > > > > Colonel John Boyd the greatest American military strategist and
> > > > > > student of Sun Tzu's classic.
>
> > > > > >http://www.artofwarsuntzu.com/america_experiences_sun_tzu.htm
>
> > > > > > On Jan 5, 2:13 pm, CrossBow <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > Ha ha! *Caesar was both a proficient tactician and statesman!*
> > Too
> > > > bad
> > > > > > they
> > > > > > > killed him... You on the other hand...are a brilliant tease, vino
> > > > expert,
> > > > > > > and professional provacateur!
>
> > > > > > > Sun Tzu probably didn't exist...a lot like Jesus, but the work is
> > > > > > attributed
> > > > > > > to him anyway.  Probably a compilation of good general's work as
> > the
> > > > > > > introduction explains. No matter, our goobers in the goverment
> > should
> > > > > > > incorporate it on principle.  Wishful thinking again:)
>
> > > > > >  > On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Clogtowner <
> > [email protected]>
> > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > Hi y'all - my ancestors were very familiar with Caesar's
> > > > methods....
> > > > > > > > Veni, Vidi, Vici.
>
> > > > > > > > On Jan 5, 12:54 pm, CrossBow <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > I may be one of the last people on Earth to read this thing,
> > but
> > > > I'm
> > > > > > > > almost
> > > > > > > > > through the Introduction section and hope someone else has in
> > our
> > > > > > group
> > > > > > > > has
> > > > > > > > > already read it...
>
> > > > > > > > > What got me to go ahead and read it was this passage that
> > caught
> > > > me
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > flip through...
>
> > > > > > > > > *"When Sun Tzu wrote, ware had become a dangerous business;
> > the
> > > > > > recouse
> > > > > > > > when
> > > > > > > > > other means had failed.  The best policy, he says, is 'to
> > atack
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > enemy's
> > > > > > > > > plans'; the next best to disrupt his alliances, for 'to
> > subdue
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > enemy's
> > > > > > > > > army without fighting is the acme of skill'. This indicates
> > his
> > > > > > > > perception
> > > > > > > > > that war was no longer a regulated pastime, but the ultimate
> > > > > > instrument
> > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > statecraft."*
>
> > > > > > > > > I am personally curious to how similar his methods were to
> > > > Caesar's.
> > > > > > > >  Caesar
> > > > > > > > > could'nt have read Sun Tzu due to the supposed time period of
> > its
> > > > > > > > > creation... but Napoleon did....
>
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