I agree that the possibility of over immunization in such a short period of
time should be looked into.  Most babies receive their first immunization at
birth!  (Hepatitis B)  My children often became very ill after vaccinations.
They would have high fevers and crying jags, and I definitely noticed that
the kids were more likely to get secondary illnesses like strep throat right
after having received multiple vaccinations.  I have to admit, as much as I
have advocated immunization in this thread, it scared the bejeezus out of me
each time my children got vaccinated.

  I remember my own experiences with vaccinations.  I remember getting
really sick with serious flu like symptoms.  My muscles would get stiff and
sore, and I would be fatigued for a few days.  I guess it wasn't really
serious, but I felt like CRAP.

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From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Isparklaria
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 9:00 AM
To: Memphis Freethought Alliance
Subject: Re: Has the link to autism and mercury in vaccines been debunked?


What I don't understand is why so many vaccinations have to be
administered in such a short time to very young babies. It seems to me
that some vaccinations might be eliminated and the rest spread out
more. Hey, but what do I know; I don't make make any money on this.
What is relevant is that I am not an immunologist. At the very least
studies need to be done, by an independent group, to determine if the
vaccination schedule should be modified. It might also be good to get
beyond statistics and try to figure which children, if any, might be
harmed by over vaccination. Treating people as statisitics is not the
way to go, if it is possible to do more. It would be a small
consolation to the parents os a damaged child to know that they made
the right choice for a hypothetical child but the wrong choice for
their very real flesh and blood child.

On Jan 12, 9:49 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
> When I found out that the drug companies had lobbied for and achieved
> bills to be passed that made it impossible for parents to sue them for
> 'side effects' of vaccines, I lost all faith in the companies.
>
> On Jan 12, 2:12 pm, "Liz Purkrabek" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I don't remember ever craving hot foods, but my dad's mom craved
> > Alka-Seltzer during one of her pregnancies.  They had to watch her all
the
> > time or she would sneak the stuff.
>
> > liz
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected]
>
> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jason
> > (Memphis)
> > Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 2:36 PM
> > To: Memphis Freethought Alliance
> > Subject: Re: Has the link to autism and mercury in vaccines been
debunked?
>
> > eat lots of really hot peppers while you are pregnant.  you may get
> > sick (increased chances of morning sickness) and possibly damage the
> > fetus.  those plant toxins and plant irritants aren't actually all
> > good for you or the fetus...neither is lead, mercury, high levels of
> > radiation, etc.  there may be a reason why most women naturally avoid
> > hot spicy food while pregnant.
>
> > On Jan 12, 2:11 pm, CrossBow <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > those harmless looking little peppers....
>
> > > weird though..most chicks I know don't go for the spicy because most
of us
> > > are slightly queasy or just plain sick when we are preggers at one
point
> > or
> > > other and spicy isnt on the plate...I mean you don't see many gobbling
> > > habaneros:)
>
> > > On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Jason (Memphis)
> > > <[email protected]>wrote:
>
> > > > Angle?  That is an interesting way of looking at it.
>
> > > > On Jan 12, 1:40 pm, CrossBow <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > Thanks...never thought of the spicy foods angle.  Will mention it
to
> > her.
>
> > > > > On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 1:27 PM, Jason (Memphis)
> > > > > <[email protected]>wrote:
>
> > > > > > Nobody knows what causes autism.
>
> > > > > > My advice:
>
> > > > > > 1.   She stay away from mercury, lead, high levels of radiation
and
> > as
> > > > > > many psychotropic medications (natural or unnatural) while she
is
> > > > > > pregnant and the child's brain is forming. Flushing a forming
> > fetus's
> > > > > > brain with synthetic neurological chemicals and/or unnaturally
high
> > > > > > levels of natural neurological agents is probably not a good
idea.
> > > > > > However, I do not want to completely discourage it because I get
> > paid
> > > > > > good money to work with women who've destroyed or deformed
fetus'
> > > > > > brains by consumption or injection of neurological agents while
> > > > > > pregnant.  Right now, though, my field is swamped. So she might
want
> > > > > > to try NOT to destroy or deform her kid's brain while it's in
the
> > > > > > womb.
>
> > > > > >  2.  She also may want to avoid plant toxins (hot spicy foods or
> > > > > > plants such as hot peppers) that plants have evolved (albeit
> > sometimes
> > > > > > unsuccessfully) because it deters their consumption by some
animals.
>
> > > > > > 3.  Get advice from her pediatrician and/or physician or
websites
> > that
> > > > > > are affiliated with established medical associations such as the
> > > > > > American Medical Association, American Academy of Pediatrics and
so
> > > > > > forth.
>
> > > > > > That is my advice.
>
> > > > > > Jason
>
> > > > > > On Jan 12, 12:50 pm, CrossBow <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > Ello,
>
> > > > > > > My friend Diane who is pregnant is soaking up the fear sites
on
> > the
> > > > net
> > > > > > > concerning Autism.  She is now distrustful of all vaccines
> > > > specifically
> > > > > > > anything mercury related.  I searched but there is so much out
> > there
> > > > that
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > > am lost:)  Anyone have specific articles that I can send her?
 She
> > > > has
> > > > > > > always been into natural remedies and I am very worried that
she
> > will
> > > > > > listen
> > > > > > > to some of the bullshit artists on the net...to a degree.
>
> > > > > > > thanks!
>
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