Something similar to that is how these studies are almost always done, that is, correlational studies. The researchers never (almost never anyway) systematically manipulate variables to watch/measure the detrimental effects on the people. Instead, the researchers watch those events happen naturally in the environment or culture and then use the correlations to draw plausible casual relationships.
On Jan 14, 9:13 am, Isparklaria <[email protected]> wrote: > I was suggesting a demographic atatisical study. There are years where > little or no vaccinations were given years where many vaccinations > were given. Within those years when many vaccinations were given there > are individuals who didn't have their children vaccinated and possible > some who used a modified vaacination schedule (maybe even enough of > these to see some correlation). There are also populations in other > nations that have a different vaccination schedule than the USA. All > in all it is likley that some correlation can be found. Of course when > you are looking at other nations you are to some degree comparing > apples and oranges. However, at the end of the day it is likley that > better suggestions can be made as well as allowing people to make up > their own minds, which they are allowed to do now in the USA. > > On Jan 14, 8:51 am, "Liz Purkrabek" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > See, that's why you DON'T TELL the parents that it will be dangerous. And > > you make sure to choose only stupid and/or ugly children to participate. > > > Liz > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jason > > (Memphis) > > Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 8:45 AM > > To: Memphis Freethought Alliance > > Subject: Re: Has the link to autism and mercury in vaccines been debunked? > > > good luck with getting parents to volunteer their kids for that study > > especially a schedule that is likely to handicap their child. > > > On Jan 13, 8:40 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > > "...At the very least studies need to be done, by an independent > > > group, to determine if the vaccination schedule should be > > > modified. ..." Ish > > > > Rhetorical question: Who is going to pay for this 'independent group's > > > study? > > > > On Jan 13, 6:59 am, Isparklaria <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > What I don't understand is why so many vaccinations have to be > > > > administered in such a short time to very young babies. It seems to me > > > > that some vaccinations might be eliminated and the rest spread out > > > > more. Hey, but what do I know; I don't make make any money on this. > > > > What is relevant is that I am not an immunologist. At the very least > > > > studies need to be done, by an independent group, to determine if the > > > > vaccination schedule should be modified. It might also be good to get > > > > beyond statistics and try to figure which children, if any, might be > > > > harmed by over vaccination. Treating people as statisitics is not the > > > > way to go, if it is possible to do more. It would be a small > > > > consolation to the parents os a damaged child to know that they made > > > > the right choice for a hypothetical child but the wrong choice for > > > > their very real flesh and blood child. > > > > > On Jan 12, 9:49 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > When I found out that the drug companies had lobbied for and achieved > > > > > bills to be passed that made it impossible for parents to sue them for > > > > > 'side effects' of vaccines, I lost all faith in the companies. > > > > > > On Jan 12, 2:12 pm, "Liz Purkrabek" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > I don't remember ever craving hot foods, but my dad's mom craved > > > > > > Alka-Seltzer during one of her pregnancies. They had to watch her > > all the > > > > > > time or she would sneak the stuff. > > > > > > > liz > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: [email protected] > > > > > > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > > Jason > > > > > > (Memphis) > > > > > > Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 2:36 PM > > > > > > To: Memphis Freethought Alliance > > > > > > Subject: Re: Has the link to autism and mercury in vaccines been > > debunked? > > > > > > > eat lots of really hot peppers while you are pregnant. you may get > > > > > > sick (increased chances of morning sickness) and possibly damage the > > > > > > fetus. those plant toxins and plant irritants aren't actually all > > > > > > good for you or the fetus...neither is lead, mercury, high levels of > > > > > > radiation, etc. there may be a reason why most women naturally > > avoid > > > > > > hot spicy food while pregnant. > > > > > > > On Jan 12, 2:11 pm, CrossBow <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > those harmless looking little peppers.... > > > > > > > > weird though..most chicks I know don't go for the spicy because > > most of us > > > > > > > are slightly queasy or just plain sick when we are preggers at one > > point > > > > > > or > > > > > > > other and spicy isnt on the plate...I mean you don't see many > > gobbling > > > > > > > habaneros:) > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Jason (Memphis) > > > > > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > > > Angle? That is an interesting way of looking at it. > > > > > > > > > On Jan 12, 1:40 pm, CrossBow <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Thanks...never thought of the spicy foods angle. Will mention > > it to > > > > > > her. > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 1:27 PM, Jason (Memphis) > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Nobody knows what causes autism. > > > > > > > > > > > My advice: > > > > > > > > > > > 1. She stay away from mercury, lead, high levels of > > radiation and > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > many psychotropic medications (natural or unnatural) while > > she is > > > > > > > > > > pregnant and the child's brain is forming. Flushing a > > forming > > > > > > fetus's > > > > > > > > > > brain with synthetic neurological chemicals and/or > > unnaturally high > > > > > > > > > > levels of natural neurological agents is probably not a good > > idea. > > > > > > > > > > However, I do not want to completely discourage it because I > > get > > > > > > paid > > > > > > > > > > good money to work with women who've destroyed or deformed > > fetus' > > > > > > > > > > brains by consumption or injection of neurological agents > > while > > > > > > > > > > pregnant. Right now, though, my field is swamped. So she > > might want > > > > > > > > > > to try NOT to destroy or deform her kid's brain while it's > > in the > > > > > > > > > > womb. > > > > > > > > > > > 2. She also may want to avoid plant toxins (hot spicy > > foods or > > > > > > > > > > plants such as hot peppers) that plants have evolved (albeit > > > > > > sometimes > > > > > > > > > > unsuccessfully) because it deters their consumption by some > > animals. > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Get advice from her pediatrician and/or physician or > > websites > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > are affiliated with established medical associations such as > > the > > > > > > > > > > American Medical Association, American Academy of Pediatrics > > and so > > > > > > > > > > forth. > > > > > > > > > > > That is my advice. > > > > > > > > > > > Jason > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 12, 12:50 pm, CrossBow <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Ello, > > > > > > > > > > > > My friend Diane who is pregnant is soaking up the fear > > sites on > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > net > > > > > > > > > > > concerning Autism. She is now distrustful of all vaccines > > > > > > > > specifically > > > > > > > > > > > anything mercury related. I searched but there is so much > > out > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > > > am lost:) Anyone have specific articles that I can send > > her? She > > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > > always been into natural remedies and I am very worried > > that she > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > listen > > > > > > > > > > > to some of the bullshit artists on the net...to a degree. > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > gnothe se auton > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > gnothe se auton- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > gnothe se auton- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Memphis Freethought Alliance" group. 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