"...Don't know how or if that information is ever used for
research, ..." - CB

For years now, genetic information is routinely collected and studied.
No choice these days, other than to refuse medical aid.

On Jan 14, 8:08 am, CrossBow <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hm.  You can look at it this way.  A Doctor's business name is usually a
> medical "practice" right? We are continually being practiced on and
> constantly producing statistics for study everytime you walk into an
> office.  Don't know how or if that information is ever used for research,
> but I think it would make sense if it were released after stripped of
> person's name, etc.  Why not? Would it be wrong to ask the medical
> profession to pool this kind of knowledge for researchers, or is it already
> being done?
>
> Rhiannon is due for her shots and we will go when the time comes.  It's
> going to stink cause she is going to freak and never going to want to go
> back..she doesnt remember the first round.
>
> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Jason (Memphis)
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Something similar to that is how these studies are almost always done,
> > that is, correlational studies. The researchers never (almost never
> > anyway) systematically manipulate variables to watch/measure the
> > detrimental effects on the people.  Instead, the researchers watch
> > those events happen naturally in the environment or culture and then
> > use the correlations to draw plausible casual relationships.
>
> > On Jan 14, 9:13 am, Isparklaria <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > I was suggesting a demographic atatisical study. There are years where
> > > little or no vaccinations were given years where many vaccinations
> > > were given. Within those years when many vaccinations were given there
> > > are individuals who didn't have their children vaccinated and possible
> > > some who used a modified vaacination schedule (maybe even enough of
> > > these to see some correlation). There are also populations in other
> > > nations that have a different vaccination schedule than the USA. All
> > > in all it is likley that some correlation can be found. Of course when
> > > you are looking at other nations you are to some degree comparing
> > > apples and oranges. However, at the end of the day it is likley that
> > > better suggestions can be made as well as allowing people to make up
> > > their own minds, which they are allowed to do now in the USA.
>
> > > On Jan 14, 8:51 am, "Liz Purkrabek" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > See, that's why you DON'T TELL the parents that it will be dangerous.
> >  And
> > > > you make sure to choose only stupid and/or ugly children to
> > participate.
>
> > > > Liz
>
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [email protected]
>
> > > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
> > Jason
> > > > (Memphis)
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 8:45 AM
> > > > To: Memphis Freethought Alliance
> > > > Subject: Re: Has the link to autism and mercury in vaccines been
> > debunked?
>
> > > > good luck with getting parents to volunteer their kids for that study
> > > > especially a schedule that is likely to handicap their child.
>
> > > > On Jan 13, 8:40 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > "...At the very least studies need to be done, by an independent
> > > > > group, to determine if the vaccination schedule should be
> > > > > modified. ..." Ish
>
> > > > > Rhetorical question: Who is going to pay for this 'independent
> > group's
> > > > > study?
>
> > > > > On Jan 13, 6:59 am, Isparklaria <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > What I don't understand is why so many vaccinations have to be
> > > > > > administered in such a short time to very young babies. It seems to
> > me
> > > > > > that some vaccinations might be eliminated and the rest spread out
> > > > > > more. Hey, but what do I know; I don't make make any money on this.
> > > > > > What is relevant is that I am not an immunologist. At the very
> > least
> > > > > > studies need to be done, by an independent group, to determine if
> > the
> > > > > > vaccination schedule should be modified. It might also be good to
> > get
> > > > > > beyond statistics and try to figure which children, if any, might
> > be
> > > > > > harmed by over vaccination. Treating people as statisitics is not
> > the
> > > > > > way to go, if it is possible to do more. It would be a small
> > > > > > consolation to the parents os a damaged child to know that they
> > made
> > > > > > the right choice for a hypothetical child but the wrong choice for
> > > > > > their very real flesh and blood child.
>
> > > > > > On Jan 12, 9:49 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > When I found out that the drug companies had lobbied for and
> > achieved
> > > > > > > bills to be passed that made it impossible for parents to sue
> > them for
> > > > > > > 'side effects' of vaccines, I lost all faith in the companies.
>
> > > > > > > On Jan 12, 2:12 pm, "Liz Purkrabek" <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > I don't remember ever craving hot foods, but my dad's mom
> > craved
> > > > > > > > Alka-Seltzer during one of her pregnancies.  They had to watch
> > her
> > > > all the
> > > > > > > > time or she would sneak the stuff.
>
> > > > > > > > liz
>
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: [email protected]
>
> > > > > > > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
> > Of
> > > > Jason
> > > > > > > > (Memphis)
> > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 2:36 PM
> > > > > > > > To: Memphis Freethought Alliance
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Has the link to autism and mercury in vaccines
> > been
> > > > debunked?
>
> > > > > > > > eat lots of really hot peppers while you are pregnant.  you may
> > get
> > > > > > > > sick (increased chances of morning sickness) and possibly
> > damage the
> > > > > > > > fetus.  those plant toxins and plant irritants aren't actually
> > all
> > > > > > > > good for you or the fetus...neither is lead, mercury, high
> > levels of
> > > > > > > > radiation, etc.  there may be a reason why most women naturally
> > > > avoid
> > > > > > > > hot spicy food while pregnant.
>
> > > > > > > > On Jan 12, 2:11 pm, CrossBow <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > those harmless looking little peppers....
>
> > > > > > > > > weird though..most chicks I know don't go for the spicy
> > because
> > > > most of us
> > > > > > > > > are slightly queasy or just plain sick when we are preggers
> > at one
> > > > point
> > > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > > other and spicy isnt on the plate...I mean you don't see many
> > > > gobbling
> > > > > > > > > habaneros:)
>
> > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Jason (Memphis)
> > > > > > > > > <[email protected]>wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > Angle?  That is an interesting way of looking at it.
>
> > > > > > > > > > On Jan 12, 1:40 pm, CrossBow <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks...never thought of the spicy foods angle.  Will
> > mention
> > > > it to
> > > > > > > > her.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 1:27 PM, Jason (Memphis)
> > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]>wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Nobody knows what causes autism.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > My advice:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > 1.   She stay away from mercury, lead, high levels of
> > > > radiation and
> > > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > > > > > many psychotropic medications (natural or unnatural)
> > while
> > > > she is
> > > > > > > > > > > > pregnant and the child's brain is forming. Flushing a
> > > > forming
> > > > > > > > fetus's
> > > > > > > > > > > > brain with synthetic neurological chemicals and/or
> > > > unnaturally high
> > > > > > > > > > > > levels of natural neurological agents is probably not a
> > good
> > > > idea.
> > > > > > > > > > > > However, I do not want to completely discourage it
> > because I
> > > > get
> > > > > > > > paid
> > > > > > > > > > > > good money to work with women who've destroyed or
> > deformed
> > > > fetus'
> > > > > > > > > > > > brains by consumption or injection of neurological
> > agents
> > > > while
> > > > > > > > > > > > pregnant.  Right now, though, my field is swamped. So
> > she
> > > > might want
> > > > > > > > > > > > to try NOT to destroy or deform her kid's brain while
> > it's
> > > > in the
> > > > > > > > > > > > womb.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > >  2.  She also may want to avoid plant toxins (hot spicy
> > > > foods or
> > > > > > > > > > > > plants such as hot peppers) that plants have evolved
> > (albeit
> > > > > > > > sometimes
> > > > > > > > > > > > unsuccessfully) because it deters their consumption by
> > some
> > > > animals.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > 3.  Get advice from her pediatrician and/or physician
> > or
> > > > websites
> > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > are affiliated with established medical associations
> > such as
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > American Medical Association, American Academy of
> > Pediatrics
> > > > and so
> > > > > > > > > > > > forth.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > That is my advice.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Jason
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 12, 12:50 pm, CrossBow <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Ello,
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > My friend Diane who is pregnant is soaking up the
> > fear
> > > > sites on
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > net
> > > > > > > > > > > > > concerning Autism.  She is now distrustful of all
> > vaccines
> > > > > > > > > > specifically
> > > > > > > > > > > > > anything mercury related.  I searched but there is so
> > much
> > > > out
> > > > > > > > there
> > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > am lost:)  Anyone have specific articles that I can
> > send
> > > > her?  She
> > > > > > > > > > has
> > > > > > > > > > > > > always been into natural remedies and I am very
> > worried
> > > > that she
> > > > > > > > will
> > > > > > > > > > > > listen
> > > > > > > > > > > > > to some of the bullshit artists on the net...to a
> > degree.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks!
>
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