Hahahah!  I had them electolisisized years ago thank you.

they are distinctive and alluring:)

On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 5:57 PM, ornamentalmind <[email protected]>wrote:

>
> Perhaps you will do us all the favor of shaving your blue feet
> now? :-)
>
> On Jan 16, 9:31 am, CrossBow <[email protected]> wrote:
> > My cover is blown! I guess I can forgo shaving my face and body now.  I
> sure
> > missed swinging from trees!  NO smelly finger jokes!
> >
> >
> >
>  > On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Clogtowner <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi y'all - I was interested to learn that chimpanzees will become
> > > legal persons. I can't wait to marry one!
> >
> > > On Jan 16, 9:45 am, CrossBow <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > no...but it is what it is - a filed intent to do damage if possible,
> > > unless
> > > > I misread the intentions.
> >
> > > > I was interestingly vague, but who knows what kind of fracas can be
> > > > construed out of hot air...happened before.
> >
> > > > Okay, I fess up, it was my first visit there and it just pissed me
> off:)
> >
> > > > On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 8:49 PM, ornamentalmind <
> > > [email protected]>wrote:
> >
> > > > > CB, without going into depth, did the article discuss details about
> > > > > "Any
> > > > > abuses or problems that come to light in WA, will, as in Oregon, be
> > > > > ignored
> > > > > by state authorities and go mostly unreported by the media."? I
> > > > > haven't heard of any here in Oregon and follow it all quite
> closely.
> >
> > > > > On Jan 15, 1:59 pm, CrossBow <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > Ok, I had to visit the site but don't worry, I had my barf bucket
> > > handy.
> > > > > > So, below are thier major concerns for the year of 2009.  How
> well
> > > they
> > > > > show
> > > > > > thier hand! thanks, we know where to look for trouble:)  NO SUN
> TZU
> > > for
> > > > > > them!
> >
> > >
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------­­­------------------------------------
> > > > > > *A Dark Year for Ethical Bioethics in 2009
> >
> > > > > > By: Wesley J. Smith<
> > > > >
> http://www.discovery.org/scripts/viewDB/index.php?command=view&id=13&;..
> > > .>
> > > > > > *The Center for Bioethics and Culture Network
> > > > >  > January 14, 2009
> >
> > > > > > Each year at this time, I predict the coming year's happenings in
> the
> > > > > field
> > > > > > of bioethics. Such prognostications do not require a crystal
> ball. It
> > > is
> > > > > > merely a matter of being informed about current controversies,
> > > sniffing
> > > > > the
> > > > > > air to see which way the wind seems to be blowing, connecting
> some
> > > dots,
> > > > > and
> > > > > > making educated guesses about how things will turn out.
> >
> > > > > > Alas, the bioethical events of 2009 are all too easy to foresee.
> > > While
> > > > > the
> > > > > > recent election results were not determined by bioethical issues
> -
> > > the
> > > > > > economic meltdown swept all other considerations aside - it
> amounted
> > > to a
> > > > > > cultural earthquake nonetheless because the people now in power
> have
> > > > > views
> > > > > > that are inimical to the sanctity and equality of human life.
> >
> > > > > > Biotechnology
> >
> > > > > > The Bush Embryonic Stem Cell Funding Policy is Toast: Let's start
> > > with
> > > > > the
> > > > > > obvious: One of the first acts of President Obama will be to
> > > dismantle
> > > > > the
> > > > > > Bush ESCR federal funding restrictions. This will allow all
> embryonic
> > > > > stem
> > > > > > cell lines already in existence - and those that will be
> manufactured
> > > > > from
> > > > > > "leftover embryos" during the Obama presidency - to qualify for
> > > federal
> > > > > > funding.
> >
> > > > > > The Amount of Federal Funding of Human ESCR Will Remain Roughly
> the
> > > Same:
> > > > > > The real gripe "the scientists" had with the former Bush policy
> was
> > > not
> > > > > the
> > > > > > amount of financial support - the NIH gave about $160 million in
> > > human
> > > > > ESCR
> > > > > > grants during the Bush years. Rather, it was Bush's implied
> message
> > > that
> > > > > it
> > > > > > is wrong morally to use human embryos as instrumentalities and
> their
> > > > > having
> > > > > > to segregate work on Bush-approved and unapproved cell lines.
> Those
> > > > > > "problems" are now kaput, but given the economy and the current
> > > > > > technological problems in the field, don't look for the amount of
> > > money
> > > > > the
> > > > > > Feds put into ESCR, to rise substantially, if at all, in 2009.
> >
> > > > > > New Federal Law Will Explicitly Legalize Therapeutic Cloning:
> Nearly
> > > > > > everyone claims to want to outlaw human cloning. But some
> proposed
> > > bans
> > > > > are
> > > > > > actually phony. This has been the approach taken by Senators
> Diane
> > > > > Feinstein
> > > > > > (D-CA) and Orin Hatch (R-UT), who co-authored a bill to legalize
> > > human
> > > > > SCNT
> > > > > > for research purposes (sometimes called "therapeutic cloning"),
> but
> > > > > prohibit
> > > > > > implantation of the cloned embryo into a womb for the purpose of
> > > > > initiating
> > > > > > a pregnancy (sometimes called "reproductive cloning"). Such an
> > > explicit
> > > > > > legalization - pretending to be a ban - is likely to pass the
> Senate
> > > this
> > > > > > year, although it might stall in the House. If it gets through
> > > Congress
> > > > > it
> > > > > > is a sure bet to be signed into law by President Obama.
> >
> > > > > > The Federal Government Will Not Fund Human Cloning in 2009:
> > > > > Feinstein/Hatch
> > > > > > is the necessary precursor to federal funding of human SCNT.
> While
> > > that
> > > > > will
> > > > > > still be the plan, don't expect the agenda to get that far in
> 2009.
> >
> > > > > > Assisted Suicide
> >
> > > > > > There were two big news stories about assisted suicide in 2008 -
> > > > > Washington
> > > > > > voters legalized Oregon-style assisted suicide by ballot
> initiative
> > > > > > (I-1000), and a Montana trial judge declared a constitutional
> right
> > > for
> > > > > the
> > > > > > terminally ill to "die with dignity." These events will
> materially
> > > impact
> > > > > > the future of the field.
> >
> > > > > > Washington Assisted Suicide Will Quickly Seem Routine: As with
> > > Oregon,
> > > > > > Compassion and Choices will facilitate most assisted suicides in
> > > > > Washington,
> > > > > > allowing the group substantial control over what the media
> reports
> > > about
> > > > > the
> > > > > > issue. With most reporters in the tank for the agenda anyway, we
> will
> > > > > soon
> > > > > > be told that assisted suicide is completely under control in
> > > Washington.
> > > > > Any
> > > > > > abuses or problems that come to light in WA, will, as in Oregon,
> be
> > > > > ignored
> > > > > > by state authorities and go mostly unreported by the media.
> >
> > > > > > The Montana Supreme Court will Create a Constitutional Right to
> > > Assisted
> > > > > > Suicide: Too many judges believe that they, rather than the
> people or
> > > > > > legislators, should decide major social controversies. In this
> > > spirit,
> > > > > look
> > > > > > for the Montana Supreme Court to agree with the trial judge that
> > > there is
> > > > > a
> > > > > > state constitutional right to assisted suicide.
> >
> > > > > > At Least One State Legislature Will Vote to Legalize Assisted
> > > Suicide:
> > > > > Look
> > > > > > for Hawaii, California, and/or Vermont to legalize assisted
> suicide
> > > > > through
> > > > > > the legislative process. Whether these proposals become law will
> > > depend
> > > > > on
> > > > > > whether the governors of the affected states have the courage to
> veto
> > > the
> > > > > > bills. I predict that at least one governor will sign such a
> bill,
> > > > > > establishing another landmark for assisted suicide. That event
> will
> > > open
> > > > > the
> > > > > > floodgates in 2010.
> >
> > > > > > Miscellaneous
> >
> > > > > > There are many other issues in bioethics that will make the news
> > > > > headlines
> > > > > > in 2009:
> >
> > > > > > Abortion: The Freedom of Choice Act (FOCA) - which would erase
> all
> > > state
> > > > > > laws limiting abortion - will be fought tooth and tong by the pro
> > > life
> > > > > > movement. It will not pass in 2009. However, abortions will be
> > > eligible
> > > > > for
> > > > > > federal funding by the end of the year.
> >
> > > > > > Conscience Clauses: One of the great bioethical battles in the
> coming
> > > > > years
> > > > > > will be whether medical professionals who do not wish to be
> complicit
> > > in
> > > > > > life-ending activities such as abortion or assisted suicide will
> be
> > > > > driven
> > > > > > out of health care. The Bush Administration passed a regulation
> at
> > > the
> > > > > end
> > > > > > of his term protecting such dissenting health care workers from
> being
> > > > > > discriminated against in employment for harkening to the call of
> > > > > conscience.
> > > > > > Look for this rule to be overturned by the Obama Administration,
> or
> > > > > > overturned by legislation. Thereafter, the drive to exclude
> health
> > > care
> > > > > > professionals who wish to abide by the terms of the Hippocratic
> Oath
> > > will
> > > > > > pick up steam.
> >
> > > > > > Human Exceptionalism: Timing is uncertain, but look for the
> European
> > > > > Court
> > > > > > of Human Rights to declare that chimpanzees are legal persons in
> > > Europe,
> > > > > > perhaps this year, but almost certainly by the end of 2010. Spain
> > > will
> > > > > > formally pass the Great Ape Project making great apes part of the
> > > > > "community
> > > > > > of equals" with people. Nepal will follow Ecuador in granting
> > > "rights" to
> > > > > > nature.
> >
> > > > > > Futile Care: Texas will not rescind its law legalizing medical
> > > futility
> > > > > in
> > > > > > 2009. At least one lawsuit will make the news in which a family
> > > fights a
> > > > > > hospital in court to continue wanted life-sustaining treatment
> that
> > > the
> > > > > > hospital wishes to end.
> >
> > > > > > Biological Colonialism: Alas, despite legal attempts to restrict
> the
> > > > > > exploitation of the world's destitute for their body parts,
> > > biological
> > > > > > colonialism (such as buying organs), will increase in 2009.
> >
> > > > > > Expect the Unexpected: The field of bioethics is moving so fast
> and
> > > > > growing
> > > > > > so exponentially, that the biggest bioethics story of the year
> may be
> > > one
> > > > > > that hasn't yet appeared on the horizon - as the surprising
> > > breakthrough
> > > > > in
> > > > > > induced pluripotent stem cells (iPSCs) were in 2007.
> >
> > > > > > It's going to be a dark year in 2009. In such an atmosphere, it
> is
> > > more
> > > > > > important than ever to defend the
> >
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