Actually I think in the end, you're better off starting with Merb  
because it gives you ALL of the functionality Rails does, and quite a  
bit of the magic-ness, for a teensy bit more startup time at the  
beginning. i mean, that's what the merb core devs have been trying for  
all along, right? Best of both worlds... and I think it goes to show  
that it's possible.

It seems to me that there's ALWAYS a certain amount of "hassle" in a  
project. Either the hassle is taken by the programmers, or its users.  
Merb tries to take as much as possible by the programmers (ie  
framework), not its (framework) users - ie end-leve-app-programmers.

This is much like Apple's products. They tend towards starting with a  
brilliant core set of technologies, and adding a set of layers on top  
of them to help ALL users. It'd be brilliant if we could get Merb  
shipped and supported by MacOS/X in much the same way as Rails is now  
(not to mention other juicy bits from EY).

Julian.

On 03/11/2008, at 12:00 AM, Per Melin wrote:

>
> 2008/11/1 Mark Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> I rewrote my old RubyPlanet.net site using Merb as the simple example
>> for the article:
>>
>> http://www.devx.com/webdev/Article/39735
>
> Quote from the article:
> "I currently see Merb to be most suited for either small
> compute-intensive web applications or for creating web services from
> Ruby applications."
>
> I read that a lot.
>
> And while that certainly is one area where Merb is better suited than
> Rails, there are others where it is equally superior. Almost any
> complex service/site/application falls outsite Rails' opinionated
> sweet spot and are, in my opinion, better off with Merb. As soon as
> you can't hide behind ORM-generated models connected to a single
> database, a handful of acts_as plugins, HTML-helpers and RJS anymore
> Rails starts to fight you instead of getting out of your way. Or at
> least it did pre-2.0 when I last used it.
>
> >


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