On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Rue the Ghetto
<[email protected]>wrote:

> While I do feel like this could be a good thing, I also feel like the rug
> has been pulled out from under me.
> As the lead developer for a small Ruby web shop, I was able to push Merb
> into a couple interesting commercial projects. We have projects dating back
> to version 0.4.X. In the Spring, I built a green PR site for
> Whirlpool/Method that calculated the water quantity and usage of a user's
> household. It was so calculation and database heavy that it really shined
> under Merb. Sadly the project died after it was built for lack of marketing
> funding.
>
> Afterwards, we built greenwala.com. That is when the decision to use Merb
> turned into an investment in the framework. We had an excellent CMS built in
> Rails that met all our client's needs, but decided to rebuild in Merb
> because our company believed in Merb's speed, modularity and philosophy. We
> eschewed the numerous rails plugins that would have made our life so much
> easier, because we wanted to build a new set of tools for Merb. We struggled
> with openid, pagination, and facebook, using a much smaller pool of
> competent developers. We had plans to extract our CMS and possibly the
> social network into a slice. Just recently I started extracting the generic
> parts of facebooker into a gem to open source. That way there could be an
> adjunct  rails/merb/mack/whatever gem that worked with framework specific
> items. After the announcement, doing that kind of work seems foolish.
>
> Although I haven't made significant contributions to datamapper or Merb, I
> have been an ardent Merb user and an evangelist for this new little
> framework that could. Perhaps I flatter myself to think that Merb owes
> people like me, early adopters, some notice or input before this kind of
> change.
>
> I have a few questions for the new core team that will help me figure out
> where to invest my coding and open source time:
>
> 1) What is the process going to be like for adapting existing Merb plugins
> to the hybrid framework?
>

The current plans involve porting plugins like merb-helpers to Rails3, and
providing transitional releases (and probably a transitional plugin for
Rails3) to aid in the transition. How does that sound?


> 2) Can slices be used in Rails 3? And if so wow will slices have to be
> changed to fit in?
> 3) Will there be a performance hit for using legacy rails plugins?
>
> Thanks for listening ... really!
>
> On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 2:49 AM, mikhailov <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>>
>> What you think about new logo?
>> http://www.railsgeek.com/2008/12/23/rails-3-rails-and-merb-merge
>>
>> On Dec 24, 4:21 pm, Samo Korosec <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Hey, at least DHH ends his "adressing the concerned 4%" post at
>> >
>> > http://www.loudthinking.com/posts/36-work-on-what-you-use-and-share-t.
>> ..
>> >
>> > classy;
>> >
>> > "So kumbaja motherfuckers and merry christmas!"
>> >
>> > First there's an annoucement that feels like a slap in the face to the
>> > merb community and then we get a nice taste of what's coming, yay!
>>
>>
>>
>
> >
>


-- 
Yehuda Katz
Developer | Engine Yard
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