If you want tracers, I noticed that www.cheaperthandirt.com has ".223 Caliber Tracer Centerfire Rifle Cartridge, 55-Grain M196 FMJ Bullet, Demilled, 20 Rounds Per Box", for $7.97.
One can find LOTS of other stuff by entering ".223" in their Search window. For example: For $2.97 (plus), they're offering this - "Russian .223, 62-grain hollow point bullet, nickel plated steel case, Berdan-primed, non-reloadable, non-corrosive, new current commercial production. Very attractive round with nickel case. Accurate and reliable ammunition. 20 rounds per box, 25 boxes per case. We sell this by the 20-round box. Non-returnable item; we will not accept any returns on this. You will be charged an additional $3.00 total handling fee on all orders for ammunition. Ammo restrictions: We do not sell ammunition to Massachusetts; New York City; Washington, DC; or Cook County, Illinois. Please check your state and local laws before ordering ammunition. Ammo Price Is Per Box Ammo Cannot Ship by Air!" I sometimes shoot this stuff in my Sako Vixen, which I added to my collection while I was stationed in Heidelberg. Seems that military stuff worked just fine, in this application 8^). BTW, by the time I was on my 2nd and 3rd tours in Vietnam, we had converted to M16s (5.56mm). There didn't seem to be an obvious problem with its "man stopping" capability. But, that's only my personal opinion. Jerry -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher McCann Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 12:08 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Re: OT .223/5.56mm (was price of diesel...interestingtheory...) IMO 5.56 (.223) when loaded to full NATO spec (or a little hotter (IMI (Israeli Military Industries)) esp with the SS109 bullet (US mil rnd M855 (with steel pentrator)) AND when shot out of a full length barrel (not M4 short barrel) is extremely effective. Beucase of the high velocity and low mass of the bullet, it tumbles shortly after entering the body...making a small entrance would but a terrible mess inside, esp after it brakes in half at the cannelure. The Russians have taken the idea further in the AK-74 with 5.45mm round (that's smaller than a .22! - but ultra fast). Also, if the doodie ever hits the fan, there will be lots of it around. Was at a gun shop 2 days ago and they are having trouble getting 5.56 as it's going to Iraq and even other rounds are getting scarcer as ammo makers convert to 5.56 production. No doubt ALOT of shooting is going on in Iraq and Afghanistan. P.S. lacquered cases - might work fine in Commie guns, but not in an AR over time...our specs are too tight, which is fine by me, and the lacquer will build up...some report this, others don't, so I stick with brass. Steel cases will cause wear too...harder than brass. For more info on 5.56 effectiveness: http://www.firearmstactical.com/briefs13.htm (scroll down about 1/4 for the article: "Wounding Effects of the U.S. Military M193 (M16A1) and M855 (M16A2) Bullet Cartridges" http://www.firearmstactical.com/pagea18.htm Christopher --- JabbaHursty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > russian stuff is reasonably cheap, but it stinks and > some guns can't handle > the lacquered steel cases. I have an older mini 14 > i'm shooting it in, but > think i will try black hills factory reloads next. > > i have serious doubts about the .223 as a manstopper > though and still think > of it as a varmint type round. i kind of prefer the > 7.62x39 myself over > the .223, but no reason to have to go military as > any deer round will do > the job. older military such as .308 and 30/06 or, > for you brits, .303, > will all do fine. there is also something to be > said for sub style > carbines, particularly .45 ACP tommy guns > > > > > At 10:54 AM 7/11/2005, you wrote: > >Just so you know, Tom Ridge and I are compiling a > list of all you hate > >america first people. Don't be suprised if you come > home some night > >and things look a little out of place and your > computer is running a > >little slow as it logs your key strokes. Anyone > know where I can get a > >good deal on a few thousand rounds of .223 fmj? > > > >Bob DuPuy > >Parrish, Fl > >
