Jim, You mentioned an interesting point - water vapor.
In the 70s I rigged up a water injection system in my 74 Olds Cutlass Supreme. It was nothing more than an aerosol spray nozzle mounted in the top of the air cleaner that pointed down at the 2 front carburetor barrels, an electric fuel pump (to pump water), a relay and a reed switch that closed when I was far enough off the throttle to not hurt anything with water. I quit using the system because it was not worth the effort. The system gave me an additional 1 MPG. That may not seem like much but going from 14 to 15 MPG in the city & 19 - 20 MPG on the highway would be huge today. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 8:39 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] H2O2 vs mileage > He was selling the same type systems that used energy from the battery > to > break water into hydrogen & oxygen & was claiming huge economy gains. Cuz's rig is set to about 20A. Plenty of fizzy goodness coming off the plates, we watched it go. > Problem was, the only ones with any mileage gains were those who were > driving more carefully after the gizmo was installed. He seemed more positive than that. He also noted that he got a lot less black smoke under X conditions. (I forget what X was, but robust driving was involved.) > Our company demoed several of these units in our big trucks. The > moisture in the intake ruined every engine before 200,000mi. Nothing > we'll try again... I did notice considerable moisture in the line to the intake. He also stated that according to the information he had, a longer feed line resulted in less gains. The cited 'chemistry' sounded bogus to me, something about H2 and O2 recombining over that distance. Without a catalyst I'd have to call that combustion, and I think it would be noticed. So, is is possible that the gains, if any, are due more to inadvertent water (vapor) injection and not to the presence of H2-O2? A long line would give the water vapor time to condense out before it hit the intake. Cuz has his on a switch and turns it off somewhat before reaching his destination, so as to boil any excess water out of his exhaust. He was aware of that as an effect. -- Jim _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.6.0/1604 - Release Date: 8/11/2008 5:50 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.6.0/1604 - Release Date: 8/11/2008 5:50 AM _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
