One thing you'd want to watch is the "Duty Cycle" , You big engine Olds spent a very small amount of it ife with W.O.T.. MAny smaller engined cars spent lots of time at W.O.O. or very close.
Turn on memory: During WW2, a lot of fighters had water/alcohol injection, If the spend more that XX minutes under "Military Power" the engine was O'hauled, usually had severe piston etching. Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Jim, > > You mentioned an interesting point - water vapor. > > In the 70s I rigged up a water injection system in my 74 Olds Cutlass > Supreme. It was nothing more than an aerosol spray nozzle mounted in the top > of the air cleaner that pointed down at the 2 front carburetor barrels, an > electric fuel pump (to pump water), a relay and a reed switch that closed > when I was far enough off the throttle to not hurt anything with water. I > quit using the system because it was not worth the effort. > > The system gave me an additional 1 MPG. That may not seem like much but > going from 14 to 15 MPG in the city & 19 - 20 MPG on the highway would be > huge today. > > Thanks, > Tom Hargrave > www.kegkits.com > 256-656-1924 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Jim Cathey > Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 8:39 AM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] H2O2 vs mileage > > > He was selling the same type systems that used energy from the battery > > to > > break water into hydrogen & oxygen & was claiming huge economy gains. > > Cuz's rig is set to about 20A. Plenty of fizzy goodness coming > off the plates, we watched it go. > > > Problem was, the only ones with any mileage gains were those who were > > driving more carefully after the gizmo was installed. > > He seemed more positive than that. He also noted that he got a > lot less black smoke under X conditions. (I forget what X was, but > robust driving was involved.) > > > Our company demoed several of these units in our big trucks. The > > moisture in the intake ruined every engine before 200,000mi. Nothing > > we'll try again... > > I did notice considerable moisture in the line to the intake. > He also stated that according to the information he had, a longer > feed line resulted in less gains. The cited 'chemistry' sounded > bogus to me, something about H2 and O2 recombining over that > distance. Without a catalyst I'd have to call that combustion, > and I think it would be noticed. > > So, is is possible that the gains, if any, are due more to inadvertent > water (vapor) injection and not to the presence of H2-O2? A long line > would give the water vapor time to condense out before it hit the > intake. > > Cuz has his on a switch and turns it off somewhat before reaching > his destination, so as to boil any excess water out of his exhaust. > He was aware of that as an effect. > > -- Jim > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.6.0/1604 - Release Date: 8/11/2008 > 5:50 AM > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.6.0/1604 - Release Date: 8/11/2008 > 5:50 AM > > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
