There were some who did run out of folks to piss off, unfortunately [for the school] they also tended to be the smart ones. A good friend of mine decided the school was unnecessarily blocking off the close way to class for a protracted construction project [so students had to walk about 1/4 mile out of our way during the Winter], and in the middle of the night used a Claymore he had brought back from 'Nam to remove the offending gate [but they couldn't prove it, and later he offered to retrieve the gate from the lake where he did - hypothetically - know where it had been discarded]. He also mooned the Dean of Men one night in public - no denying that one. Interesting guy - but he did have trouble later on when he wanted to join the VA state police ... The only part I sort of regret is that in order to pay my way and stay alive I worked nights and weekends, so I never really had the time to enjoy as much of the campus life as was available. Met some great folks, though. On the LC campus you actually did have a chance to interact with those top notch professors, also much more so if you were in their departments, of course. BillR
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 10:54 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] College Costs - Large schools vs. small schools i never went to anything other than a big school, both public and private. the main difference between the public and the private schools was mostly the spread of talent. at the public university, you ran the gamut from the illiterate and retarded to super geniuses. at private, the bottom end was much higher and was much more affluent as well. both had your noble laureate types in the faculty and at neither did you ever actually encounter them. at both, you were known and knew people at your department, but anywhere else you were just a social security number. having never experienced it, i have a pretty idealized view of small college life. in reality though, i'd run out of new people to piss off mighty quickly and it probably wouldn't work out. On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 9:51 AM, Bill R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nothing wrong with that, and a couple of years out it shouldn't make > more than bragging rights or a better chance to get laid if you are still > on > the market. I attended two years at Florida State University [then about > 22,000 students] and enjoyed them. I used to lead out the right hand line > for the pre-game shows and had a lot of fun in the band. I did have a > couple of classes of 1,200, but that is because courses such as Intro to > Psychology were taught by the head of the psychology department rather than > a grad student. After 40 or so it made little difference how many were in > the class, but the quality of the professor could make a difference. Too > bad that guy wasn't a very good teacher for intro stuff. I decided to try > Lynchburg College because I'd never seen snow and was ready to be on my own > [one of those 19 year olds who still thought they could do anything]. I > did > find that there was a qualitative difference in the student body and the > relations with the professors at LC, and campus life in that small school > was much more interactive and with lots of very interesting students. It > had a VERY active student activities program with as much talent brought in > as at FSU, at less than one tenth the student body size. I enjoyed both, > but felt I got a better education at LC than at FSU, and had a lot better > student life experience. Could have been that I was paying for it myself, > also that I was working on my majors and more interested and invested in > the > classes. > I can suggest one item to look at that mattered to me, though. > Where I was the classes worked with source materials rather than books > about > source materials [especially in grad/post grad work]. Numerous times I > would talk with colleagues about some field of study or school of thought > and they would say, yes, we had a class that talked about that or read a > book that discussed that. For us it was going through the stuff written by > the author and facilitated by a professor who actually understood it. When > I was studying Third World Development we imported a top Asian, African and > Latin American scholar each year to teach development from the perspective > of the developing countries [as well as having opportunities to visit some > of the countries], and the program was administered by the world's leading > authority on Third Development at that time. I do think that made a > significant enough difference to be worth the years it took to pay off > student loans. BTW, I made the last payment on my last student loan the > same month I made the first college payment for my oldest child - but I was > a slow learner and my last degree took me 10 years to complete. I'd > probably have been better off financially had I started digging ditches out > of high school, but I think job satisfaction and enjoyment made a > difference. I didn't get to go to an Ivy League school, but as you said, > there are lots of good schools out there. > BillR > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of John Robbins > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 12:20 AM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: [MBZ] College Costs > > I just don't understand why people pay high dollar for the "Ivy" > schools. For the vast majority of people, there is no reason to spend > that kind of money... I think I got a pretty good education from a > state school, and it was DIRT cheap. I also don't understand the small > school thing either. If you find a larger school that has the same > student/teacher ratio you're no better off either way. Except your wallet. > > When I co-oped I had some friends that went to Georgia Tech. Almost all > of their senior level engineering classes were still in the 50+ student > range. MSU's is around 15 students. I only had 2-3 classes during my > entire degree with more than 50 students. They have lots of student > loans, I have none. I also had plenty of opportunities for > undergraduate research.... In fact, thats how I have my current job. > > MS State Tuition cost/semester: $2600 > > Yes, there are only two zeros in those numbers. MSU estimates that it > costs $16k a year to attend. That INCLUDES, room and board, full meal > plans, books, and estimated living expenses. > > http://www.futurestudents.msstate.edu/choice/cost/ > > If you are a grad student and get a Teaching/Research Assistant position > (not very difficult), you get a monthly stipend (8-16k a year) and free > tuition. > > My opinionated $.02 > > John 'the MSU cheerleader' R > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
