Likely the best available synthetic, 'bet it's better than Mobil 1, but I'm not sure. 'Been retired from B-52's 27 years. 'Been 49 years since I was a maintenance crew chief/mechanic on B-47's; I remember taking 2 and 3 24-quart cases of oil up on the wings to refill the six lub oil tanks after a 12 or 14-hour flight; 'think the tanks were about 15 or 20 gallons or more - don't remember for sure. Probably same for B-52 and others. I was amazed at how thin the oil was/is -'course, it has to perform (lub bearings spinning at 20+ krpm) at high altitude, -55F.
BTW, does anybody else recognize the blue vertical stabilizer sticking out of the Hudson River as the same as that on a B-47? How 'bout the under-wing, break-away engines also pioneered by the B-47, circa 1947? Wilton ----- Original Message ----- From: "E M" <pokieba...@gmail.com> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 7:46 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] physics and such > Here's another question Wilton, what type of oil do the engines on a BUFF > use? How many gallons are allotted per engine, and how often is the oil > changed ? Still amazes me how old some of those birds are, and they just > keep on flying. > > My great Grandfather was a mechanical engineer, and I was down having a look > at one of the old steam engines he helped design, while it was being > restored. I was watching one guy pack grease into one of the wheel > bearings! Was about as liquid as cold road tar. lol I can't remember the > weight now, but it was pretty serious stuff. > > Ed > 300E > > 2009/1/16 Wilton Strickland <wilt...@nc.rr.com> > > > There are always the firewall shutoff valves actuated by quick-reaction "T" > > handles to stop all flow - fuel, hyd, oil, etc., to the engine ('cept a bit > > for lub while windmilling). These are usually located in the strut or wing > > directly above the engine; 'don't remember any auto or spring-loaded > > shutoff > > to stop flow for sheared engine - may be such by now - stuff I dealt with > > was from 50's, but a lot of it is still flying. > > > > Wilton > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "E M" <pokieba...@gmail.com> > > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 7:14 PM > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] physics and such > > > > > > > Is there anything built into the fuel system to stop or slow fuel flow in > > > the even of an engine being sheared off? > > > > > > Ed > > > 300E > > > > > > 2009/1/16 Wilton Strickland <wilt...@nc.rr.com> > > > > > > > I wouldn't be surprised to find BOTH engines sheared off; they're > > usually > > > > (often, anyway) held on by only two bolts/pins (one on top toward the > > > > front, > > > > one toward the rear) that shear before tearing a wing off. This was > > the > > > > case with ones that I used to be "intimate" with, anyway - B-47's and > > > > B-52's > > > > and others that I've seen in photos. Shearing the engines off helps > > keep > > > > it > > > > from flipping up and over, etc. If right engine is still on it or held > > on > > > > a > > > > little longer may be what made the aircraft turn sharply to the right > > after > > > > it hit the water. Better for the engines to shear off than to cause > > > > more/bigger problems. > > > > > > > > BTW, remember the engine sheared off the aircraft crashed on the ground > > > > several days ago? They actually shear fairly easily - the pins/bolts > > I'm > > > > talking about easily carry the weight of the engine and impart thrust > > to > > > > the > > > > aircraft, but are relatively weak to sudden impact shear forces. > > > > > > > > Wilton > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Archer" <arche...@embarqmail.com> > > > > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > > > Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 4:39 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] physics and such > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: relng...@aol.com > > > > > I would like to announce that this subject is not on my list of > > "Things I > > > > > Know Something About" and I therefore will avoid ANY attempt to > > convince > > > > > anyone > > > > > otherwise by keeping my mouth shut. > > > > > It's already clear who the expert is. > > > > > Yr obdt svt. > > > > > RLE > > > > > ------------------------------------------- > > > > > You could offer your opinions on the airliner crash in NYC. On > > another > > > > list > > > > > we've been trying to figure out how the pilot managed to make such a > > > > smooth, > > > > > safe landing with underslung engines; especially since one engine did > > > > tear > > > > > off. > > > > > Some think he lost flying speed near the water and ground-effect let > > him > > > > > drop > > > > > more gently into the water. > > > > > Also, since Airbus pilots can't override "fly-by-wire", what effect; > > if > > > > any; > > > > > did the > > > > > planes computers have to do with the smooth landing of the A320? > > > > > http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/boe202.shtml > > > > > Gerry > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > > > > > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.8/1897 - Release Date: > > > > 1/16/2009 > > > > 6:52 AM > > > > > _______________________________________ > > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > > URL: > > < > > http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090116/c7 > > df928c/attachment.html<http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/a ttachments/20090116/c7df928c/attachment.html> > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090116/eb e590ee/attachment.html> > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com