Likely the best available synthetic, 'bet it's better than Mobil 1, but I'm
not sure.  'Been retired from B-52's 27 years.  'Been 49 years since I was a
maintenance crew chief/mechanic on B-47's; I remember taking 2 and 3
24-quart cases of oil up on the wings to refill the six lub oil tanks after
a 12 or 14-hour flight; 'think the tanks were about 15 or 20 gallons or
more - don't remember for sure.  Probably same for B-52 and others.  I was
amazed at how thin the oil was/is -'course, it has to perform (lub bearings
spinning at 20+ krpm) at high altitude, -55F.

BTW, does anybody else recognize the blue vertical stabilizer sticking out
of the Hudson River as the same as that on a B-47?  How 'bout the
under-wing, break-away engines also pioneered by the B-47, circa 1947?

Wilton

----- Original Message -----
From: "E M" <pokieba...@gmail.com>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 7:46 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] physics and such


> Here's another question Wilton, what type of oil do the engines on a BUFF
> use?  How many gallons are allotted per engine, and how often is the oil
> changed ?  Still amazes me how old some of those birds are, and they just
> keep on flying.
>
> My great Grandfather was a mechanical engineer, and I was down having a
look
> at one of the old steam engines he helped design, while it was being
> restored.  I was watching one guy pack grease into one of the wheel
> bearings!  Was about as liquid as cold road tar. lol  I can't remember the
> weight now, but it was pretty serious stuff.
>
> Ed
> 300E
>
> 2009/1/16 Wilton Strickland <wilt...@nc.rr.com>
>
> > There are always the firewall shutoff valves actuated by quick-reaction
"T"
> > handles to stop all flow - fuel, hyd, oil, etc., to the engine ('cept a
bit
> > for lub while windmilling).  These are usually located in the strut or
wing
> > directly above the engine; 'don't remember any auto or spring-loaded
> > shutoff
> > to stop flow for sheared engine - may be such by now - stuff I dealt
with
> > was from 50's, but a lot of it is still flying.
> >
> > Wilton
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "E M" <pokieba...@gmail.com>
> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 7:14 PM
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] physics and such
> >
> >
> > > Is there anything built into the fuel system to stop or slow fuel flow
in
> > > the even of an engine being sheared off?
> > >
> > > Ed
> > > 300E
> > >
> > > 2009/1/16 Wilton Strickland <wilt...@nc.rr.com>
> > >
> > > > I wouldn't be surprised to find BOTH engines sheared off; they're
> > usually
> > > > (often, anyway) held on by only two bolts/pins (one on top toward
the
> > > > front,
> > > > one toward the rear) that shear before tearing a wing off.  This was
> > the
> > > > case with ones that I used to be "intimate" with, anyway - B-47's
and
> > > > B-52's
> > > > and others that I've seen in photos.  Shearing the engines off helps
> > keep
> > > > it
> > > > from flipping up and over, etc.  If right engine is still on it or
held
> > on
> > > > a
> > > > little longer may be what made the aircraft turn sharply to the
right
> > after
> > > > it hit the water.  Better for the engines to shear off than to cause
> > > > more/bigger problems.
> > > >
> > > > BTW, remember the engine sheared off the aircraft crashed on the
ground
> > > > several days ago?  They actually shear fairly easily - the
pins/bolts
> > I'm
> > > > talking about easily carry the weight of the engine and impart
thrust
> > to
> > > > the
> > > > aircraft, but are relatively weak to sudden impact shear forces.
> > > >
> > > > Wilton
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Archer" <arche...@embarqmail.com>
> > > > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > > > Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 4:39 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] physics and such
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > From: relng...@aol.com
> > > > > I would like to announce that this subject is not on my list of
> > "Things I
> > > > > Know Something About" and I therefore will avoid ANY attempt to
> > convince
> > > > > anyone
> > > > > otherwise by keeping my mouth shut.
> > > > > It's already clear who the expert is.
> > > > > Yr obdt svt.
> > > > > RLE
> > > > > -------------------------------------------
> > > > > You could offer your opinions on the airliner crash in NYC.  On
> > another
> > > > list
> > > > > we've been trying to figure out how the pilot managed to make such
a
> > > > smooth,
> > > > > safe landing with underslung engines; especially since one engine
did
> > > > tear
> > > > > off.
> > > > > Some think he lost flying speed near the water and ground-effect
let
> > him
> > > > > drop
> > > > > more gently into the water.
> > > > > Also, since Airbus pilots can't override "fly-by-wire", what
effect;
> > if
> > > > any;
> > > > > did the
> > > > > planes computers have to do with the smooth landing of the A320?
> > > > > http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/boe202.shtml
> > > > > Gerry
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