I used to run Yoko 008Rs years ago on my old 911.  While DOT legal for road
use, there was no wear rating on them.  If you got 5000 out of a set, you
were doing really well, and they didn't like to be cycled a lot, so while
the grip was fantastic, it would drop off with cycles.  The sidewall was so
upright and ridged, they probably inspired run flat tires. lol  Nothing
comes without a cost, and while they would hang on forever, when they did
finally decide to let go, there wasn't a lot of progression built into
them.  Wooooohooooo, did you feel that coming Molly??? ;-) hee hee

Ed
300E

2009/2/8 Tom Hargrave <tharg...@hiwaay.net>

> You are probably right. A friend of mine bought one of the high performance
> 5 series BMWs a few years ago and his tires only lasted 9000 miles. But the
> issue wasn't the speed rating, it was the rubber compound. The tires on his
> BMW were Z rated!
>
> When he went back to the Stealership for new tires, they would only mount
> the originals and they explained that the replacements also had no mileage
> rating.
>
> I don't remember what brand he went to but he found an American Z rated
> tire
> that lasted 30,000 miles. The replacements also did not come with a mileage
> warranty.
>
> I have to admit - it is a very tight car, but the sidewalls on a Z rated
> tire have almost no give.
>
> Thanks,
> Tom Hargrave
> www.kegkits.com
> 256-656-1924
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
> On Behalf Of E M
> Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 9:17 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] speed ratings of tires
>
> >From what I've read about the tires originally intended for use on the
> W140,
> they were much softer and of higher performance.  Due to the weight and
> size
> of the car, they wore very fast, and the US market just wouldn't got for an
> expensive tire that had to be replaced every 10,000 miles or so.  The tires
> were "toughened up" for extended mileage, and the cars top end was reduced
> to compensate for the lower performance rubber.
>
> Ed
> 300E
>
> 2009/2/8 Tom Savage <tesav...@gmail.com>
>
> > Tom Hargrave wrote:
> >
> >> Kaleb,
> >>
> >> "Speed rating" is about a lot more then speed. Speed rating also affects
> >> how
> >> the tires handle. H rated tires have much stiffer sidewalls than S rated
> >> tires and since the tires are an active part of a car's suspension,
> >> downgrading from H to S rating, particularly the front tires, will have
> a
> >> negative impact on how the car handles. Downgrading also greatly reduces
> >> front tire tread life because the more flexible sidewalls allow more
> tread
> >> to be scuffed off in turns.
> >>
> >
> > What he said.  A 140 is a pretty hefty car and flimsy tires do it no
> favors
> > at all.  I just put Bridgestone Turanzas on my S420 and they're about the
> > perfect tire for the car.  Much nicer than the Michelins they replaced,
> or
> > the Contis or no-name POS tires on other 140s I've driven.
> >
> > Expensive, but they have a 70k mile treadlife warranty which I expect to
> > collect on (these cars chew up tires pretty quickly), as long as I go
> back
> > to Firestone every 6,000 miles so they can rotate them and steal my metal
> > valve stem caps (again).
> >
> >
> > Tom
> >
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