The few illegal immigrants I've met have a better work ethic than most
of the Americans I know.
Seeing as how they are preparing/picking/packaging much of the food I
eat, it's in my own best interest to keep them healthy.

-Dave Walton


On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 11:45 PM, LarryT<l02tur...@comcast.net> wrote:
> I have converted to think your illustration in the use of "Junk Science" is
> what caused the govt to start putting Flouride into our water system.
> Without enough long term studies to see what a reduced level of cavities
> will really cost us is now making people question Flouride as being a
> vehicle to increase aluminum retention in the brain - which is turn is
> thought to be responsible for Alzheimers Disease.
>
> Rumor has it that anytime someone wanted to conduct a long-term study in the
> US, the lawyers for the govt  shut them down.  Evidently the liability of
> flouride causing a health crisis is more than the govt wants to get involved
> with.
>
> BTW, a certain Sen Heller, (R, Nv) tried to include an amendment that would
> exclude illegal aliens from the obama health care free-for-all was defeated
> along party lines just before the bill was passed in the House last week.
> Seems the dems do not want any means of testing for a persons citizenship
> status to depend on their being approved for tax-payer supported health
> care.  That's estimated to be between 10 and 12 million people here
> illegally without any plans for getting rid of them.  on the contrary, if
> illegal aliens can get free health care there won't be anything to stop
> millions more pouring across the border - along with terrorist, pedophiles &
> criminals of all sorts with all sorts of diseases to be covered by a
> virtually free health care plan with no "pre-existing condition" clause.
>
> We've got quite a government working *for* us, don't we?
>
> Hmm.... wonder if I can find any mention of providing free health care for
> the population anywhere in the US Constitution?
>
> LarryT
>
> Read the Constitution - It's Interesting!
> http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.overview.html
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Hurst" <jabbahur...@gmail.com>
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 10:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] We're all gonna dieeeeeeee.....
>
>
>> i get more and more convinced everyday that EVERYTHING is just political.
>> All decisions are made in this simple algorithm:
>>
>> A causes B
>> B is bad
>> A is bad
>> C is a replacement for B
>> C is good
>>
>> This logic is horrible on many, many levels.  mostly it is no logic at
>> all,
>> but that isn't my subject here.  there are two things no one ever cares to
>> talk about:
>>
>> externalities
>> co-dependencies (i probably have the word wrong for this)
>>
>> an externality is something that is created and put upon you as a side
>> effect of something else.  like in my subdivision now the old biddies are
>> trying to kill off the snakes.  these snakes have never hurt anyone as far
>> as anyone knows, but they are big and snakelike.  the old biddies are
>> frightened from them.  what do you think is going to happen to the rat
>> population if they succeed?  get rid of DDT, hundreds of millions will die
>> from malaria.  get rid of R12, send global warming through the roof. every
>> answer that is about prohobition of any sort works on the bad logic above.
>> and if you try to point this out to anyone making the argument, they will
>> shout you down.
>>
>> what is called scientific research is nothing but regression analysis.
>> econometrics.  it works under a limited set of circumstance, but it mostly
>> doesn't work.  it's basically about drawing a graph.  like, say you want
>> to
>> know the relationship between fat intake and heart disease.  to simplify
>> this model, say the only fat anyone in the usa eats is butter.  so you see
>> how many sticks of butter a lot of people eat and whether they get heart
>> attacks.  you discover that dudes who eat 10 sticks of butter a day are
>> dropping dead left and right from heart attacks.  you also discover that
>> dudes who are eating 1 stick of butter a year seem to never get heart
>> attacks.  so you make a graph and shows you how heart attacks and butter
>> correlate.  and you call it "science".  and anyone who disagrees gets
>> shouted down.  and you start giving everyone margarine instead and every
>> doctor and government organization and school and whomever tells you to
>> eat
>> margarine to save your heart.  after all, it is science.
>>
>> amazingly, everyone starts to live the scientific wisdom of the food
>> pyramid, only they are now dropping dead faster and from more things than
>> ever before.  so now those with a vested interest in selling that
>> margarine
>> need to make ptolemaic adjustments to preserve the gospel "truth proven by
>> science."  only thing is that this isn't any science, but bullshit and the
>> gospels are all just so much politics.  in the end it's just an orwellian
>> world and the government tells you who oceania has always been at war with
>> and you need to sit down and shut up or someone will hurt you.  and all
>> discussion of politics, education, medicine, economics, society, race, et
>> a
>> all just becomes pontificated bullshit and shit down and shut up.  only
>> the
>> ramifications get more and more serious every day as the sit down and shut
>> up technology increases, so much so that the 20th century can be viewed
>> really as just one wholesale bloodbath over bullshit.
>>
>> and if anyone of you are interested, i'll explain why the correlation
>> between teh hearts attacks and the sticks of butter are no science at all.
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 10:20 PM, Rich Thomas <
>> richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Crank up your AC now, before you kill the planet.  Those 140s with bad AC
>>> will be rising in price since it won't matta no mo.  "BLOWS ICE COLD"
>>> will
>>> be a BAD thing.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/19/AR2009071901817_pf.html
>>>
>>> Algore is comin ta gitcha.  Run away!
>>>
>>> --R
>>>
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