Yes, I know.

Wilton

----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Hurst" <jabbahur...@gmail.com>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] cheap chinese part recall


i think we are talking more PRC than ROC here

On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 2:37 PM, WILTON <wilt...@nc.rr.com> wrote:

My Shoprider (Pihsiang) electric scooter is made in Taiwan and is of
excellent quality. I recharge it with my Mercedes Diesel - '87 300D. Yes,
I drive a Diesel/electric scooter.  'Guy tried to cite me for speeding in
Sam's coupla days ago.

Wilton

----- Original Message ----- From: "E M" <pokieba...@gmail.com>

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Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 2:24 PM

Subject: Re: [MBZ] cheap chinese part recall


I'm sure by original, he meant, maintained to original spec.

I'm not so sure I'd be so quick to label someone as having a racist
attitude, for identifying a country, or countries that for the most part
produce inferior products.  Most made in China goods imported into North
America, are junk. They are, in every example I've seen, inferior to their
North American or European counterparts.  Again, I'm not sure how "racist"
could be attached to such a statement, but for people who love to throw the
label around I'm sure they will find a way.

In my view, the problem with the so called race in the current world
economy, are the grounds on which we're running.  Somewhere along the way,
it was decided that the race was going to be run on who could make the most
the cheapest, not who could make the best.  Don't try to compete, you'll
never win on the current rules the race is run on.  And who's fault is it,
pretty much all of ours.  People at some point decided, it was favourable
to
have a quantity of crap, over quality. Buy it cheap, chuck it out, buy it
again. If you're paying some guy on mainland China pennies to work on your
car, forever changing the same parts, perhaps not a problem.  If you're
paying a guy here $100+ to bolt on those same inferior parts, buying junk
becomes a bit of a false economy.

If the rules that the race is run on ever change, to who can make the best,
instead of who can make the cheapest, American and Europe have won, hands
down. In the end, it doesn't matter what trade rules the governments make,
or what duties are levied to level the playing field, it all comes down to
the attitude of the consumer.  He who reaches for his or her wallet calls
the tune, and we know the tune most people are calling for at the moment.

Ed
300E


On 6 February 2010 12:10, Peter T. Arnold <pm7...@comcast.net> wrote:

 That's kind of funny.  Keeping your car 'original' would be keeping it
broken?

Folks that insist on the racist attitude that only junk is made on the
Eastern Rim have chosen not to compete in the world econmy, they's given
up
the race before it starts!
Get out there and fight!  Fight to bring our costs down and our quality
up.
 When we win those battles, we'll win at the market place.
I'm betting that M/B world sources based on cost, quality & delivery.  If
they don't, they will fail and the consumers of high quality autos will
have
to look elsewhere.

Anyone care to comment on who is going to pay for the Toyota mess?  We
are!


--
Pete Arnold 32°

"There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and
mountaineering; all the rest are merely games."  - Ernest Hemingway



On 2/6/2010 11:13 AM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote:

 And honestly I'd rather pay more and get a higher failure rate for the
sake of keeping my car original.

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 6, 2010, at 11:09 AM, Dimitri Seretakis<dsereta...@yahoo.com>
 wrote:

The German parts have a greater failure rate?

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 6, 2010, at 10:54 AM, buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote:


Of course we do. They are just more expensive and have a greater failure
rate by far.


Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld


-----Original Message-----
From: Dimitri Seretakis<dsereta...@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 07:50:31
To: Mercedes Discussion List<mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] cheap chinese part recall

Do you also sell the German ones? I really can't swallow putting Chinese
parts on my Mercedes.

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 6, 2010, at 10:34 AM, buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote:


Let's at least tell the whole story on this forum. I have sold at least
400 of these "cheap" Chinese axles and 3 of them are under the recall.
Someone forgets to say that the recall is for 2 months production in late 2009 compared to 10 years production. Does Mercedes have a better record?
Not every one can spend tens of thosands of dollars on 30 year old cars.
Let's remember that Gary and I buy from the same 5 vendors and offer the
same quality parts.


------Original Message------
From: Gary Hurst
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Sent: Feb 5, 2010 7:02 PM
Subject: [MBZ] cheap chinese part recall

turns out those cheap chinese axle shafts that you guys have been
purchasing
are being recalled for safety concerns. I'm glad I resist the temptation
of
300% profit and don't sell that kind of product.  i think a certain
vendor
sells those every single day, but i'm sure he doesn't want to worry you
guys
about something as minor as a chinese axle shaft coming apart.

i can't emphasize it enough -- stay away from the chinese junk!  it is
only
being sold because even priced much lower than original quality products,
the profits are still astronomical.




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