i think we are talking more PRC than ROC here

On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 2:37 PM, WILTON <wilt...@nc.rr.com> wrote:

> My Shoprider (Pihsiang) electric scooter is made in Taiwan and is of
> excellent quality.  I recharge it with my Mercedes Diesel - '87 300D.  Yes,
> I drive a Diesel/electric scooter.  'Guy tried to cite me for speeding in
> Sam's coupla days ago.
>
> Wilton
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "E M" <pokieba...@gmail.com>
>
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 2:24 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] cheap chinese part recall
>
>
> I'm sure by original, he meant, maintained to original spec.
>
> I'm not so sure I'd be so quick to label someone as having a racist
> attitude, for identifying a country, or countries that for the most part
> produce inferior products.  Most made in China goods imported into North
> America, are junk.  They are, in every example I've seen, inferior to their
> North American or European counterparts.  Again, I'm not sure how "racist"
> could be attached to such a statement, but for people who love to throw the
> label around I'm sure they will find a way.
>
> In my view, the problem with the so called race in the current world
> economy, are the grounds on which we're running.  Somewhere along the way,
> it was decided that the race was going to be run on who could make the most
> the cheapest, not who could make the best.  Don't try to compete, you'll
> never win on the current rules the race is run on.  And who's fault is it,
> pretty much all of ours.  People at some point decided, it was favourable
> to
> have a quantity of crap, over quality. Buy it cheap, chuck it out, buy it
> again.  If you're paying some guy on mainland China pennies to work on your
> car, forever changing the same parts, perhaps not a problem.  If you're
> paying a guy here $100+ to bolt on those same inferior parts, buying junk
> becomes a bit of a false economy.
>
> If the rules that the race is run on ever change, to who can make the best,
> instead of who can make the cheapest, American and Europe have won, hands
> down.  In the end, it doesn't matter what trade rules the governments make,
> or what duties are levied to level the playing field, it all comes down to
> the attitude of the consumer.  He who reaches for his or her wallet calls
> the tune, and we know the tune most people are calling for at the moment.
>
> Ed
> 300E
>
>
> On 6 February 2010 12:10, Peter T. Arnold <pm7...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>  That's kind of funny.  Keeping your car 'original' would be keeping it
>> broken?
>>
>> Folks that insist on the racist attitude that only junk is made on the
>> Eastern Rim have chosen not to compete in the world econmy, they's given
>> up
>> the race before it starts!
>> Get out there and fight!  Fight to bring our costs down and our quality
>> up.
>>  When we win those battles, we'll win at the market place.
>> I'm betting that M/B world sources based on cost, quality & delivery.  If
>> they don't, they will fail and the consumers of high quality autos will
>> have
>> to look elsewhere.
>>
>> Anyone care to comment on who is going to pay for the Toyota mess?  We
>> are!
>>
>>
>> --
>> Pete Arnold 32°
>>
>> "There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and
>> mountaineering; all the rest are merely games."  - Ernest Hemingway
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/6/2010 11:13 AM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote:
>>
>>  And honestly I'd rather pay more and get a higher failure rate for the
>>> sake of keeping my car original.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Feb 6, 2010, at 11:09 AM, Dimitri Seretakis<dsereta...@yahoo.com>
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> The German parts have a greater failure rate?
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Feb 6, 2010, at 10:54 AM, buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Of course we do. They are just more expensive and have a greater failure
>>> rate by far.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Dimitri Seretakis<dsereta...@yahoo.com>
>>> Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 07:50:31
>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List<mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] cheap chinese part recall
>>>
>>> Do you also sell the German ones?  I really can't swallow putting Chinese
>>> parts on my Mercedes.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Feb 6, 2010, at 10:34 AM, buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Let's at least tell the whole story on this forum. I have sold at least
>>> 400 of these "cheap" Chinese axles and 3 of them are under the recall.
>>> Someone forgets to say that the recall is for 2 months production in late
>>> 2009 compared to 10 years production. Does Mercedes have a better record?
>>> Not every one can spend tens of thosands of dollars on 30 year old cars.
>>> Let's remember that Gary and I buy from the same 5 vendors and offer the
>>> same quality parts.
>>>
>>>
>>> ------Original Message------
>>> From: Gary Hurst
>>> Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
>>> To: Banned List
>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List
>>> ReplyTo: Mercedes Discussion List
>>> Sent: Feb 5, 2010 7:02 PM
>>> Subject: [MBZ] cheap chinese part recall
>>>
>>> turns out those cheap chinese axle shafts that you guys have been
>>> purchasing
>>> are being recalled for safety concerns.  I'm glad I resist the temptation
>>> of
>>> 300% profit and don't sell that kind of product.  i think a certain
>>> vendor
>>> sells those every single day, but i'm sure he doesn't want to worry you
>>> guys
>>> about something as minor as a chinese axle shaft coming apart.
>>>
>>> i can't emphasize it enough -- stay away from the chinese junk!  it is
>>> only
>>> being sold because even priced much lower than original quality products,
>>> the profits are still astronomical.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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