Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com> writes:

> I don't think M1 15w50 is that hard to pour compared to 15w40
> conventional oil...

M1 15W50 is not hard to pour.  Marshall used to challenge people to put
a cup of M1 15W40 and a cup of conventional 15W40 in the freezer, let it
chill down, and compare the pourability of the two.  Then think about
which one you want in your engine when it's 10 degrees outside.

In my case it doesn't matter because 15W50 M1 has become unobtainium in
this area.  Wal-Mart stopped carrying it, and nobody else stocks it in
any quantity.  I've been using Chevron Delo for the past year or so;
good oil and easy to find.

Allan



>
> -Curt
>
> Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 17:44:28 -0500
> From: Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com>
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Subject: [MBZ] oil thread... (no porch or lexi content)
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> OK, I stayed out of the last oil thread until I did some research. 
> the last oil thread some folks talked about using M1 0W-40 in their 
> Diesels.  I distinctly remember the the revered Herr Doktor was 
> adamant about not using M1 0W-40 in OM 60x or older Diesels.  So I 
> wanted to check some oil facts out.
>
> A more recent thread talked about the low zink content of oils made 
> for the current crop of gassers.  A CF rating has the higher zink 
> content we need.  I don't remember who posted the data link in that 
> thread, but it was really good.
>
> I took a little time today to look at the backs of some chosen oils. 
> Most that have a C rating (for Diesels) are CH-4 or CI-4.  However, 
> M1 V-twin oil had a CF (what we need) on the bottle for $9 a quart. 
> I guess HD makes a lot of Vtwin diesels, Huh?
>
> Mobil Delvac, which used to be a good dino substitute for M1 15W-50 
> now has the CH-4 or CI-4 rating, meaning it does not have the zink 
> that our engine bearings need.  Interestingly, the M1 0W-40 did have 
> a CF rating.  So, it looks like it is ok now.    If my memory is 
> right, Herr Doktor's main argument was that the base viscosity (0W) 
> was too thin for OM62x, OM63x, OM61x, and OM60x engines.
>
> The 15W-50 is very hard to pour in below 0F weather, and so I liked 
> to use the 10-40 M1 in the winter or if the time before the next oil 
> change was likely to include cold weather.  Now, it appears that the 
> M1 10-40 is gone forever, or at least until Mobil changes its mind. 
> Confusing, huh?
>
> I am not sure if this is the same in all parts of the country.  YMMV. 
> As we know, Mobil changes the formulations ad ratings on a whim at 
> least once or twice a year.  Good luck!
>
>
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